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Krompany 97
Goran Konjich Krompany Likes received: 97	#1 - 2012-04-16 11:53:22 UTC Hi , i would like someone to explain to me why is generally better to shield armor Cynabal rather than armor tank it. And i would like to see here if anyone has some good armor and shield fits. TIA I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.

afwewafe 17
churrros afwewafe Likes received: 17	#2 - 2012-04-16 12:01:49 UTC 1 because cynabals are mostly used for their speed and autocannons benefit greatly from tracking enhancers that uses up low slots. Armor tanking it usually means you have to use plates and armor rigs which will decrease the speed advantage. Even if speed wasn't and issue, Its hard to fit tracking enhances with gyros when you are armor tanking.

Goran Konjich

Krompany

Likes received: 97

#3 - 2012-04-16 12:26:06 UTC

thanks a lot, sounds very reasonable ... i always forget armor tanking goes into low slots and shield tanks are going into mid ones Oops

another thing : what if i prefer artillery and not autocannons , artillery has better tracking speed if im correct so i might not use TE and use only Gyros ... is this ok ?

+ AB for capacitor stability = some kind of speed tank from distance (like 20km + 15, so 27km would be ok Lol

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I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.

Denuo Secus

Likes received: 258

#4 - 2012-04-16 12:52:06 UTC | Edited by: Denuo Secus

Goran Konjich wrote:

thanks a lot, sounds very reasonable ... i always forget armor tanking goes into low slots and shield tanks are going into mid ones Oops

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It's vice versa. Arty is THE worst tracking turret in game. Auto cannons are the second best in terms of tracking (tracking of short range turrets is always better compared to long range turrets). Also: if you want arty and distance, you want to maintain this distance. This is not possible with AB. You'll need a MWD.

School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5,031
Jack Miton School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 5,031	#5 - 2012-04-16 13:00:00 UTC 2 if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

The Graduates 2,921
FT Diomedes The Graduates Likes received: 2,921	#6 - 2012-04-16 13:15:46 UTC Somehow, I get the sense that the OP is thinking more about PvE than PvP. If you are thinking about PvP, lose a few dozen Stabbers and Ruptures before you graduate to the Cynabal. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.


Goran Konjich Krompany Likes received: 97	#7 - 2012-04-16 13:25:09 UTC Jack Miton wrote: if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.

Niko Takahashi

Yoshitomi Group

Likes received: 64

#8 - 2012-04-16 13:38:54 UTC

Goran Konjich wrote:

Jack Miton wrote:

if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal.

if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place

That might be but it does not make his comment invalid.

If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal.

Goran Konjich

Krompany

Likes received: 97

#9 - 2012-04-16 13:44:26 UTC

Niko Takahashi wrote:

Goran Konjich wrote:

Jack Miton wrote:

if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal.

if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place

That might be but it does not make his comment invalid.

If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal.

its all fine ... i admit i am confused ... but nonetheless im not flying Cynabal. I'm just interested ... but as expected there are some really satisfying answers as always and i'm thankful for them.

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.

Torothin

Crimson Dawn Enterprises

Bog Brotherhood

Likes received: 276

#10 - 2012-04-16 13:45:08 UTC

OP,

The Cyn is meant to be a hit and run ship Guerilla warefare PvP ship. It works best with groups of Vagabonds, other Cyn's, Rapiers, Hughins, and sometimes scimmy's. Your speed and agility is your tank. This is not a PvE ship. Under no circumstance what so ever should this be a PvE ship. This is also a viable solo option if you fit ti correctly. This ship excels at small gang 0.0 warfare.

Fireflyb1

Walden 2.0

Likes received: 64

#11 - 2012-04-16 13:45:16 UTC

Niko Takahashi wrote:

Goran Konjich wrote:

Jack Miton wrote:

if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal.

if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place

That might be but it does not make his comment invalid.

If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal.

Yeah but Jack's post is just to appear superior and douchey :P

Niko Takahashi

Yoshitomi Group

Likes received: 64

#12 - 2012-04-16 14:49:03 UTC

Fireflyb1 wrote:

Niko Takahashi wrote:

Goran Konjich wrote:

Jack Miton wrote:

if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal.

if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place

That might be but it does not make his comment invalid.

If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal.

Yeah but Jack's post is just to appear superior and douchey :P

That it is Lol

but it is correct however since he is asking for info only and not flying the ship all is good.

As far as comments that Cynabal is not PVE ship 100 % spot on tired it for lvl3's

Fun factor high no problem doing any lvl3 with 900+ with the Afterburner but still not good pve ship.

Mia Trouble

Phoenix Hell Raiser

Likes received: 11

#13 - 2012-05-05 04:23:03 UTC

Torothin wrote:

OP,

This is not a PvE ship. Under no circumstance what so ever should this be a PvE ship.

Is this law because i'm breaking it ? Are you the one to stop me or anyone else from using the cynabal for pve I'll fly what i want where i want when i want within accordence to the game mechanics so unless the pirate ships get thrown out of high sec i'm gonna keep using them

I am optimistically pessimistic

The Atomium

Global Song Setup

Likes received: 9

#14 - 2012-05-05 04:29:12 UTC | Edited by: The Atomium

[Cynabal, gotta go fast]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

you can switch out the DC II against a second TE II.

aka Luba Cibre

Mia Trouble

Phoenix Hell Raiser

Likes received: 11

#15 - 2012-05-05 05:34:11 UTC

(Mission runner Cyn)

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Target Painter II
10MN Afterburner II
Shield booster II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amp II

425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec
425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec
425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec
425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec
Medium Nosferatu II

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Projectile metastasis adjuster
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator

Makes a perfect lvl 3 and 4 runner

I am optimistically pessimistic

Viribus

Aurora.

OnlyFleets.

Likes received: 355

#16 - 2012-05-05 05:39:22 UTC

The Atomium wrote:

No, you switch out the nano for a second TE. The cynabal doesn't need to be faster or more agile, it needs more range and tracking.

Also:

>T2 MWD
>Invuln and not a third LSE or an AB

Jesus christ how horrifying

watch me be a scurb and get owned

Copine Callmeknau

Dirty Vagrants

Intergalactic Space Hobos

Likes received: 334

#17 - 2012-05-05 06:04:50 UTC

The Atomium wrote:

Less EFT, moar l2p

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Klown Walk

Science and Trade Institute

Caldari State

Likes received: 233

#18 - 2012-05-05 10:48:05 UTC

If you can afford a crystal set and have access to links:

[Cynabal, New Setup 1]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Valkyrie II x5

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Aurora.

OnlyFleets.

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