Warfare & Tactics

You want to fire at your optimal or with matar you want to fire at optimal + around 1/2 falloff. There's some variation as against gallente you want to stay as far away as possible because gallente ships will always outdamage you in close.



Basically ya, em vs shield ships and exp vs armor ships is a good rule. By learning fits of what others fly you can reenginner their fits and find their damage holes and remember but not everyone fits the same way so there is a certain luck factor.



With an mwd and a nanofiber or two and staying out of web range with a good orbit distance and be very careful if the enemy overheats his mwd at you



Experience. A rifter can fight any tech 1 frigate and any tech 2 interceptor. It can try to fight tech 2 assault frigates but you'll lose those fairly badly most of the time. 1v1s can start out bad but if you wait for your enemy to make a mistake you can win



Haha nowhere. This is a massive MMORG on ONE server and everybody and their mom has an alt. Your best bet is via 1v1 in Red vs Blue, 1v1s in high sec or trying to find loners in faction warfare. 1v1s in an open pvp game are hard to find as nobody fights fair if they don't have to. It's fun outsmarting the blobbers when you do it. If you solo pvp, you will die a lot. A lot. You won't even kill anything most of the time until you learn how to get away or learn how most traps are sprung. Sometimes it won't be fun but every once in awhile it will be epic.



My advice is to join Red vs Blue and google them and agony empire pvp classes if they are still doing them. Here are rifter fits that are tried and true:
Rifter fit one
Rifter fit two

Just like almost all armor tankers close the Explosive hole, from my experience anyway.

Honestly I'm struggling to articulate a response for this because there's so many canned responses you could be given. Thing is, they only apply to very limited situations in a vacuum.

I disagree about your mindset of not being ready to co-ordinate in a group. What I would suggest is that you find a small gang or even a duo that would be willing to have you. Listen to the calls the FC makes, follow them and try to understand the thought process. If you're not sure of something, ask AFTER the op.

Note, I recommend very small gang stuff as the FC can micro-manage you a lot better. Because of this, you'll have a lot more to assess and learn from. This will prepare you for far more situations than the canned advice you could receive and give you an actual developed knowledge of the game.

If you can answer yes to:

-Do you understand basic commands in EVE and controls?
-Do you have a functional PvP overview?
-Can you listen?

Then you're ready to jump right in.

Edit: Forgot to add 'have a voice comm client'. Pretty silly of me.

The answer to this is not very simple as MANY things have to be taken into account. I'll try to skim through them:

- Obviously your weapons range is key as this is how you kill people. Check the optimal and falloff range of your guns. Remember that optimal is where you'll be able to do the most damage while falloff is how far out you can be while still applying SOME damage.

- The tracking of your weapons is another factor to consider. Generally speaking, the closer you are and faster you are going the harder it is for your weapons to track the target (and vice versa).

- Transversal speed (the speed that you are moving relative to your target and vice versa) also plays a major factor, especially for frigates. Generally speaking, if you are moving parallel to your target and/or you and your target are stationary, the lower your transversal is and the easier it is for your weapons to track. Be warned that this works BOTH ways as the easier it is for you to shoot a target, the easier it is for your target to shoot you.

- Knowing aggro mechanics helps immensely as it can help you get out of bad situations (ex. you find yourself on a gate fighting someone, you realize that your target's friends are coming, you stop fighting and try to hold out for a minute or so to jump through the gate ans escape).


All you can do is guessimate the resistance hole and take your best shot. Most PvP ships never know what weapons (or ammo) they will be facing, so PvP fits try to omni-tank and plug up any resistance holes they might have
Overall, you have the right idea and often, armor tankers (especially cruisers and below) will have explosive holes while shield tanks (again, cruiser and below) have low EM resist.


Yes and no. People who shield tank will usually try to plug up their resistance holes (EM and Thermal) as much as they can with specific mods... but then that leaves the other two resistances (Kinetic and Explosive) at weaker levels because no mod was used to boost them. The same concept works for armor as well.

My personal preference is towards dealing Thermal damage as it is often not always the strongest resistance on a ship, but at the same time not always the weakest.


The "art" of kiting is to stay outside of the target's effective weapon range while staying more or less within your own. This can also be extended to include staying outside of web/scam range (~10km) so you have the option to GTFO if the fight goes south.
Often, people will use Microwarpdrives (and thus speed) to keep that distance... or use a combination of Microwarpdrives/Afterburners and/or stasis webifiers to keep the target at a certain range


Knowing how ships are generally fit, how they are generally used, and what weapons they generally employ helps you both use your chosen ship better and also helps you select your targets to avoid "unfavorable" situations.
Basically, know the pros and cons of each ship and weapon.

Here's a basic rundown of different weapon systems...

- Missiles never miss so long as you are in range... but the damage they apply is generally dependent on how "big" the target is and how fast it is moving. You can use your MWD to increase your speed and mitigate the damage that way, but because MWDs increase your ship's "sensor footprint" you might end up taking more damage. The same works in reverse.

- Turrets can apply full damage to any sized ship, but they can miss if the target is moving too fast or is too close in relation to the ship (see: "Transversal speed" and "tracking"). "Getting under the guns" is a tactic where you try to get so close and/or move so fast that it is extremely difficult for the turret to track, and thus apply damage, to you.
Of course, "size" also plays a factor with turrets as they do with missiles... just not to the same degree

- Drones (not including sentry drones here) operate like miniature mobile turrets. They have excellent tracking and can be deployed against any ship within about 50km... which makes them ideal for anti-frigate duty (especially light scout drones). However drones need to get into range first and can be shot down anytime during the fight.
It is completely possible to outrun drones (Warrior IIs are the fastest and can fly around 4000 m/sec) and/or "disarm" a ship by killing all the drones.

Read these guides:

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/TheOrangeGuy/Beginners_Guide_to_Piracy_2.1.pdf

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/wensley/The_Rifter_Guide_Solo_PvP.pdf

Visit this blog, open the article index and read the "Know Your Enemy" series - start with T1 frigates:

http://altruist.azual.co.uk/

Don't use a Cap Booster on a Rifter hull to start your PvP career. If you don't have the SP to power your AR with only a Nos, than go for a buffer tank and rocket launcher. Also, meta 3/4 modules are your friend and sometimes they perform better/as good a their T2 counterparts.

Hello,

Just a thought. You have 5 mill sp's with a fully T2 fit. That makes me wonder if you are under-trained in some core skills.

T2 gear needs good support skills to be really effective. Simply being able to fit T2 is not a guaranteed advantage. Some T2 gear has higher cap demands that isn't a problem if you have energy management and energy systems operations to level 5 but an un-necessary hindrance when meta stuff is good enough.

You've got the equipment skills, get the core skills now. You could aim for core comp standard (don't worry too much about getting multitasking for frigates.

And if you haven't got it yet, make thermodynamics a priority now and enjoy the heat. Really... NOW

I went on vacation once and the only skill that would cover the time away was thermodynamics 5. Ironically having that to L5 will benefit a noob the most as you need all the advantage you can get against higher sp toon, and remembering to turn it off takes a lot of practice!

Having it to 5 is more forgiving



You'll get there dude



edit. You're flying Rifters. If you haven't done so already get Evasive Maneuvering, Navigation and Trajectory Analyse to L4 minimum. I'd make those your next L5 skills after Engineering (which you need for Thermodynamics)

And rigs, they're great and easy to train for

There seems to be this mindset in New Eden that in order to pvp you either need to;

a) run in a gang
b) go solo

But there's nothing wrong with a duo either. Your odds of survival are far greater. You'll learn alot more and find more fights with just 1 wingman by your side.

I don't know who told you a cap booster rifter is cookie cutter but you need to immediately disregard any other advice they gave you. Put a web on your rifter instead.

Furthermore if you are in an AB frig you should normally be overheating your ab rather than turning it off (or at least running it with no heat). You should only turn it off when you have extreme cap instability and the opponents tracking is poor.

What he said.

I fail at pvp, but I'm failing a lot less than I used to. What has changed is :-

1. I have found a fit I understand well, have embarked on a focused skill-plan for that fit and now I'm milking it.
2. Through points 2 and 3 above I got a better understanding of my possible targets and picked my battles.


That guy that pwns your frig in 30 secs did so because he worked out how you were fit, decided he could take you and exploited your weakness's. If you were fit differently he may have just avoided you instead.

I'm more of that guy now.



(I still die a lot)