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Ethan Lang
Scythe Co.
#1 - 2012-04-16 03:42:19 UTC
So moments ago I was doing hisec exploration when I warped in on a Drake who had beat me to a Gurista anomaly

Knowing I had 2 other corp mates in system and ready to rock, I targeted him and stole a wreck. He took the bait and fired on me

I quickly tackled him and got stuck in, but this is where I get a little confused

My corp mates warped in to help, expecting to see the drake who fired upon me flashy red, but no such thing. He was neutral white, and any attempts to assist me in his destruction prompted a warning from CONCORD

No harm done, really. I finished him off just fine, but can someone please explain to us PvP noobs why my corp mates, in my fleet, were unable to assist me in combat? Our current understanding of the rules says he should have been legal for anyone in my fleet to fire upon.
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#2 - 2012-04-16 03:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Feldman
Person A steals from Corp B's can.
Person A goes red to everyone in Corp B.
Anyone from Corp B can shoot at Person A now that he is red to them.
The only people Person A can shoot at are people who shoot him for stealing the wreck.
The only way other people in Corp A can get involved is if they steal from Corp B's wrecks AND someone from Corp B shoots them for it.

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Ethan Lang
Scythe Co.
#3 - 2012-04-16 03:59:02 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Person A steals from Corp B's can.
Person A goes red to everyone in Corp B.
Anyone from Corp B can shoot at Person A now that he is red to them.
The only people Person A can shoot at are people who shoot him for stealing the wreck.
The only way other people in Corp A can get involved is if they steal from Corp B's wrecks AND someone from Corp B shoots them for it.


Has that changed? Because I clearly remember when I was a fledgling pilot who didn't know any better falling for the can stealing trick. It was a little frigate and I was in my BC, and yet all his friends warped in and raped me after I shot the frig.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-16 04:52:40 UTC
has always been like this.

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Daphny Naarma
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-16 10:23:04 UTC
Ethan Lang wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Person A steals from Corp B's can.
Person A goes red to everyone in Corp B.
Anyone from Corp B can shoot at Person A now that he is red to them.
The only people Person A can shoot at are people who shoot him for stealing the wreck.
The only way other people in Corp A can get involved is if they steal from Corp B's wrecks AND someone from Corp B shoots them for it.


Has that changed? Because I clearly remember when I was a fledgling pilot who didn't know any better falling for the can stealing trick. It was a little frigate and I was in my BC, and yet all his friends warped in and raped me after I shot the frig.

Sounds like you stole from him then.
Ethan Lang
Scythe Co.
#6 - 2012-04-16 16:52:02 UTC
Nope. Was missioning, frig comes in, steals a wreck. I target and fire. He speed tanks me until his friends show up in a Neut fit legion and an Armageddon. Then I'm neuted and dead.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-04-17 04:21:12 UTC
doesn't work that way. the person who steals is at the disadvantage number wise, unless your corps get to sit there and RR. but they would become red to the corp as well.