Science & Industry

I am surprised a pilot of your age is proposing this idea unless you have just bought your char? I think you will die many times and not make considerably more isk than if you had mined Pyroxeres & Veldspar in high sec. But please be my guest and try it if you so wish.
If you decide to go ahead I would recommend NOT using the T2 strip miners as that is what the gankers will love you to fit there. Fit a Damage Control II and has much tank as will stick to your hull. And cross your fingers.

to make it worth you have to find a system with low traffic, good belts = low sec-status, many belts, some stations are wellcome but not necassary as you can also use a pos.

if no station, better chance of the system to be empty but lesser protection while offline and ease of hauling

the best ore in lowsec except of hidden belts i found is hemorphite wich is about as 1.5x the price of pyroxeres.

as you need some time to get safe if in a normal belt (in a hidden one you allways have the time to warp to safety as scanning takes still a little time) best would be a dead end with a scout in the system in front.

this makes you use at least 2 accounts with 1 mining. for the scout you are allways free to make a trial account.

i for myself found this not to be a good idea as systems with the desired attributs are rare.

with the old scanning system i have done a lot of mining in low in hidden belts as most ships didnt had any scanprobe launchers and most people wasnt able to use them properly, also i took very long to scan out any object in space. but nowadays its to danger. even if you found arkonor (what i dont know if it even exists in hidden belts in low) you would only double your income in comparison to mining pyroxeres. taking the extra time for scanning, hauling etc its not worth the hassle.

If you are mining for isk why not join a null sec corp or wh corp. Then you can make isk easily for yourself and your corp?

Okay, I feel I need to chip in here. I’ve been mining in low sec for about 7 months, and making good money at it. It’s unfortunate, especially given the imminent economic changes, that people continue to think under the old paradigm.

It’s also a heck of a lot more interesting than the snooze fest that high sec mining is.

First, I agree, you need an out of the way system with low traffic. Having good ore/ice belts help also.

Second, do try to make friends with the locals. It makes life so much easier.

I have to respectfully disagree with my colleagues about much of the rest of what I’ve heard.

Myth:
You can’t mine in a Hulk

Fact:
You can mine in a Hulk in Low Sec. I do it all the time. I’ve never been caught. The closest I’ve ever come to being ganked is when someone warped into my belt at 300+km away just as I warped away. And that only happened because he jumped into system just as I entered warp from my POS on the way to the belt I was working at.

I’m not even warp stabbed. I just know my way around the game mechanics. For example, it takes approximately 10 seconds for someone who appears in local to land on grid. Since it takes an exhumer approximately 10-12 seconds from a standstill to enter warp, the chance of someone catching me are negligible, even if they to the logoff trick. The key is you have to pay attention.

Myth:
You make more isk in high sec.

Fact:
Depending on your ore/ice belts, that wasn’t true in the past, and it definitely isn’t true anymore. I make twice as much mining in low sec as I do in high sec, even with the occasional interruption.

Myth:
You’ll get ganked in low sec.

Fact:
True, you will get ganked in low sec…if you’re stupid. But if you’re stupid, you’ll get ganked in high sec too. In fact, you have a better chance of being ganked in high sec than in low, if for no other reason than the increase in population of people who are willing to harass you. Pirates are notoriously lazy. You don’t have to be smart, just smarter than the pirate’s next victim.

Myth:
You’ll get afk cloak ganked in low sec.

Fact:
Again, true, you’ll get afk cloak ganked in low sec. It’s happened to me. But it happened to me in null too. In fact it happened to me more often in null because alliances have enemies, and those enemies are invested in making life difficult. Unless an afk cloaker has a has a grudge, chances are they won’t bother you for very long. The longest I’ve ever been afk cloak ganked is a few hours.

Finally, let’s not discount the other benefits of mining in low sec:

1. If you have a POS, get a decent moon. That will do a lot to mitigate (if not outright cancel) the cost of running a POS.
2. Get a Rorqual. The ability to compress ore is invaluable.
3. If you can, get a Jump Freighter. If not, use the Rorqual/Carrier. A Rorqual costs about 1/3 of a JF and can hold about ½ as much (potentially much more if you include the ore bay). Carriers cost even less. Sure you have to move it out of low sec by other means, but that just means you get to be creative
4. Make friends. Just because someone lives in low sec doesn’t mean they’re a drooling madman, cackling with maniacal glee, waiting for you to slip out of your POS shields so they can pounce.
5. Better exploration area, maybe even the occasional ABC grav site
6. Fewer miners = more ore for you!

Fly smart. o7

also you shouldn't mine but w/e we can't all be isklords

totally possible. you would be surprised how dead some low sec regions are. The only problem i see is the battleship rats that spawn in the belt.

This is just a flat wrong GIGANTIC ASSUMPTION.

If I were 'complacent' I would have been Mining Ganked at least once the past 15 months. Hasn't happened.

Please, next time, MINE for a few years with experience before commenting about something you know nothing about.

And big deal if one gets ganked. So what ?

Because:

"In the end the carebear persists and continues on with their lives and game.

You mistake their lack of interest in combat as a seeming inability to know how to defend themselves..... and you far far superior, and much 'braver' players, scuttle around game mechanics looking for some kind of weakness.

I'm not sure how anyone can arrive at the conclusion that this level of stubborness and resilience is weakness. I won't burden you with logic you can't grasp." -Mass Attack

a major problem in this game imo