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CCP where's the Wormhole NERFS WHY ARE THEY GETTING OFF SCOT FREE?? BURN EVE RYONE equally

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Qui Shon
Capital Construction Research
#421 - 2012-06-10 09:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Qui Shon
Diego Sarmoti wrote:
You have yet to make a valid point as to why wh blue isk needs to be nerfed. So far is been bitter vet diatribe against bling, lame (faulty) logic mixed with a dash of contradiction... so yeah I feel it's fair game to point out some history for other readers (poor souls) of this awful thread so they can have a point of reference.





Backpedaling already? It's too late for you to appear as a non-flamer now. I expected better flaming tbh.
Or none at all if it was discussion you wanted, but on page 20+ almost nobody will want that.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#422 - 2012-06-10 09:16:07 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:


whiny old hag can't keep up with the game anymore wants everyone plays the game his way

sound like those risk-adverse carebears whining about complete safety in hisec
Qui Shon
Capital Construction Research
#423 - 2012-06-10 09:38:52 UTC
Lol, now that's more what I expected yeah. But maybe it was unfair to Diego to expect the same **** from him as you spew out in every thread Apo Smile
joes Bazooka
Doomheim
#424 - 2012-06-10 10:15:40 UTC
You guys need to get a room and have free hugs. Lol
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#425 - 2012-06-10 13:21:24 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Blue loot is a ISK FOUNTAIN that injects as much ISK into the EVE economy as incursions do on a monthly basis


Except there's a major difference to them. Wormholes are a high-risk venture, running incursions in highsec was not.

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#426 - 2012-06-10 14:39:07 UTC
I remember two years ago Mr. Bigwinsky tought me a lesson how not to lose a badger II with 700mill worth in loot while doing a chain of TWO w-system to hisec in his nice proteous (if I remember correctly).
Tell me if that is no risky environment or not suited for the dumb?

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Diego Sarmoti
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#427 - 2012-06-10 18:42:04 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:

Backpedaling already? It's too late for you to appear as a non-flamer now. I expected better flaming tbh.
Or none at all if it was discussion you wanted, but on page 20+ almost nobody will want that.


I told you why nobody takes you (and the op) seriously, if that is backpedaling in your book, fine by me.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#428 - 2012-06-10 20:19:29 UTC
Good news guys, Darth is finally unsubbing this week.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1454100#post1454100

It seems adapting is too hard, he's going to leave because he can't make any ISK. Everyone be sure to add him to watch list and mock him if he's still online in 7 days.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

G0hme
Perkone
Caldari State
#429 - 2012-06-10 22:00:47 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Good news guys, Darth is finally unsubbing this week.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1454100#post1454100

It seems adapting is too hard, he's going to leave because he can't make any ISK. Everyone be sure to add him to watch list and mock him if he's still online in 7 days.


Ceeeeeeeelebrate good times COME ON! Dudu du du

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Got NPC API removed from Wormhole Space.

Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
The Bastion
#430 - 2012-06-11 03:16:16 UTC
I can’t see why the fuss about ‘blue loot’. They are simply the sleeper analogue of the other rats’ bounties. Rather than CONCORD, or whoever, paying you a bounty when you kill a pirat you get the grab those blue things from the wrecks and later various NPCs in empire space will buy them from you for a fixed amount. Just like other rats you also get to salvage the wrecks and, unlike most other rats, you can get some pretty nice salvage items … subject to the incessant ‘CCP nerfed melted drops’ moans.

Making your isk from Sleeper-PvE is a whole different game to hisec missions or incursions, or even lowsec / nullsec plexes. Not only are you ‘ratting’ in a very hostile environment (no-sec and no-local) but you do not realise a single milli-isk in income until you also haul your takings to empire space and to a system where you can sell it on the market. My biggest single loss in eve was around 5 billion … hauling a few weeks of sleeper takings thru hisec to market. I’d got it safely out of w-space, thru an adjoining C2, but stupidly ran the 4-jump hisec route in my hauler rather than 20+ jumping a fenrir / orca / prowler over to pick it up. It was an expensive lesson, and a major delay for the get-subs-a-jump-freighter program.

Obviously the nerf-everything brigade are gonna want to nerf w-space too … but IMO being a bear in w-space is a whole different thing to PvE anywhere else in eve. You can certainly earn a lot of isk, but not without surmounting some pretty major risks … even during the hisec phases of converting your PvE to isk.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#431 - 2012-06-11 04:09:08 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
I can’t see why the fuss about ‘blue loot’. They are simply the sleeper analogue of the other rats’ bounties. Rather than CONCORD, or whoever, paying you a bounty when you kill a pirat you get the grab those blue things from the wrecks and later various NPCs in empire space will buy them from you for a fixed amount. Just like other rats you also get to salvage the wrecks and, unlike most other rats, you can get some pretty nice salvage items … subject to the incessant ‘CCP nerfed melted drops’ moans.

Making your isk from Sleeper-PvE is a whole different game to hisec missions or incursions, or even lowsec / nullsec plexes. Not only are you ‘ratting’ in a very hostile environment (no-sec and no-local) but you do not realise a single milli-isk in income until you also haul your takings to empire space and to a system where you can sell it on the market. My biggest single loss in eve was around 5 billion … hauling a few weeks of sleeper takings thru hisec to market. I’d got it safely out of w-space, thru an adjoining C2, but stupidly ran the 4-jump hisec route in my hauler rather than 20+ jumping a fenrir / orca / prowler over to pick it up. It was an expensive lesson, and a major delay for the get-subs-a-jump-freighter program.

Obviously the nerf-everything brigade are gonna want to nerf w-space too … but IMO being a bear in w-space is a whole different thing to PvE anywhere else in eve. You can certainly earn a lot of isk, but not without surmounting some pretty major risks … even during the hisec phases of converting your PvE to isk.

Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
The Bastion
#432 - 2012-06-11 04:14:26 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:

Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs.


LOL, Ahhh, ok, serves me right for not reading everything. I'll leave that polytickling to others. Thanks.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Qui Shon
Capital Construction Research
#433 - 2012-06-11 06:26:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Qui Shon
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs.


Nah, I've gone "bitter vet" because the blobs are five times as big as when I last played and because everyone flies around with as much bling as I always did, or more even. Which means I can't do my thing alone anymore and will have to become a pussy like you, bound to his flock, if I want to attack peeps in high class wh's.
chris elliot
Oblivion Watch
HYDRA RELOADED
#434 - 2012-06-11 07:02:16 UTC
Oh dear, some highsec carebear is crying in the wormhole forum again..



Carebear cleanup on isle 5!
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#435 - 2012-06-11 07:46:14 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs.


Nah, I've gone "bitter vet" because the blobs are five times as big as when I last played and because everyone flies around with as much bling as I always did, or more even. Which means I can't do my thing alone anymore and will have to become a ***** like you, bound to his flock, if I want to attack peeps in high class wh's.

Posting to confirm I both live in wormholes and am "bound to my flock". What can I say, I just love blobbing so much.

So basically your complaint is that you are more space poor than the people around you, and they won't let you make loads of money like them because they keep engaging you in ~surprise PvP~.

Welcome to Eve Online.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#436 - 2012-06-11 12:25:33 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs.


Nah, I've gone "bitter vet" because the blobs are five times as big as when I last played and because everyone flies around with as much bling as I always did, or more even. Which means I can't do my thing alone anymore and will have to become a ***** like you, bound to his flock, if I want to attack peeps in high class wh's.


"flies around with as much bling as I always did, or even more"

So what you're saying is that now a few more people have toys as nice (or nicer than) yours it's time to throw a tantrum

Hahahahahahaha
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#437 - 2012-06-11 12:27:22 UTC
Less QueueQueue moar PewPew please!

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corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#438 - 2012-06-11 16:03:02 UTC
Well if darth doesnt quit i am sure i can find a nice c6 for him and his incurions mates to move in and farm in to get the easy isk he is after.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#439 - 2012-06-11 17:00:12 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs.


Nah, I've gone "bitter vet" because the blobs are five times as big as when I last played and because everyone flies around with as much bling as I always did, or more even. Which means I can't do my thing alone anymore and will have to become a ***** like you, bound to his flock, if I want to attack peeps in high class wh's.

so because of

1. I can no longer pwn ppl with my army of alts because they have more ppl than the number of alts I have
2. ppl earn as much isk as I used to.

conclusion, nerf wh
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#440 - 2012-06-11 18:02:15 UTC
corbexx wrote:
Well if darth doesnt quit i am sure i can find a nice c6 for him and his incurions mates to move in and farm in to get the easy isk he is after.

Oh god I would love to see a bunch of incursion runners in a wormhole.

Is it possible to get low sec statics in C6s? Because I'd hate to think that Darth is going to be running around in a WH and I'm never going to get the chance to pop in and kill the crap out him say hi.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]