Science & Industry

Well, isn't that the purpose of a "Factory Manager"?
I.E. someone who MANAGES a factory?

Last I checked managers at any employer can tell workers to stop doing something. Like how a manager at a newspaper can "stop the presses" and tell everyone to re-set the paper.

Tell us what you are intending to do, there is probably a way that will not involve your CEO selling his soul to control. :)

As long as i have been playing this game its been this way all the time.. Factory manager can cancel all corporation manufacturing jobs, bossibly leading to massive loses in materials..

And theres no way to tweak it. Thats why i have my own alt corp to handle my manufacturing needs, so i dont need to worry about such security holes by design.

My guess would be all the other corporations that do it actually only give that role to people they trust. If they get burned by those people, atleast it was just a select few, and not the entire corporation.

Possibly up your game to a manufacturing alliance since POS are corporate assets?

Fewer security loopholes traded off for lots of work "working together"...


Edit: Someone beat me to it!

You're absolutely right about the factory manager position and how hard it sucks, but your conclusion that it's impossible to run a manufacturing corp in the game is dead wrong. I had one for months and made billions (I eventually got burned out as it was like a second job, but we never had any corp theft/griefing problems.)

The fact is that while there are of course corp thiefs all over the place, your average player isn't one. I was also very careful to keep the cost benefit equation in my favor-- I only kept a few days of manufacturing materials in the general access hangar, and paid well enough that a corp theft would only gain them a week or two worth of pay at the expense of their reputation.

I haven't started my test corp on my alt yet, but perhaps CEO's should be able to choose from CCP pre-designed roles and then if those roles don't meet their needs they can create their own roles/role templates. CCP could use the rule manager in MS Outlook as a good example of how it could work. Just a thought.

- Kobalos

Long and Short of it, roles suck, ccp see industry and don't really care.

These problems and the problems with Pos roles have been an issue for years, and nothing has changed significantly, there's been dozens if not hundreds of posts about them over the years, CCP can't be blind, so it's obvious they just don't give a rats arse about the problems.

There's been lots of ideas banded about, giving a seperate role to cancel jobs mainly, so you could grant 1 role to the normal members of the corp, and the ability to cancel jobs to more trusted members. But nothing happens, the industrialists are getting a slight boost with the nerfing of drone poop and I think I read something about the module drop table changing so any module / ammo etc that has a blueprint won't drop, so mining is become more attractive, but high-sec miners are just a target for more suicide gankers, so it's mixed blessings.

I saw an image of an advanced mining crystal banded about the other week, but no further mention of it anywhere, some plan for making 0.0 mining more attractive but it's anyone's guess if 1) it will ever happen and 2) when.

CCP cares, but they also have a lot of other fish to fry. And touching the corp roles / POS code is a delicate and tricky business because of its age / complexity.

Rumors say we might see improvements in 6-12 months.

Not a bug. It's a feature, and, frankly, a design flaw. It needs work, CCP KNOW it needs work, and it's incredibly hard to work ON.

Wardecs I can deal with. Bugs in the role management system cause me no end of issues.

But enough whining about it. I just hope someday CCP fixes this issue.