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How many dumb PVPers per corp?
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Mistress Milana
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-04-11 16:47:24 UTC
I'm curious to hear from other PVPers and corp leaders as to what you think the concentration is of competent pilots to dumb pilots there are in your corp? This is targeted primarily to PVP corps as you can't fault those with industrialist in them. And when I say dumb, I mean don't listen, failed fittings, etc...
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#2 - 2012-04-11 17:17:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nexxala
3% Very good
7% Good
20% Competent
40% Useful if you tell them what to do constantly
20% Useless ****
10% Brain dead mouth breathers

That's if you have some requirements for recruitment. As my current corp is quite small...this is going off my last corp of about 100 people.

nom nom
Mark Androcius
#3 - 2012-04-11 17:25:04 UTC
Well i know from my own experience ( as a pilot ), that WHY a certain fit is "not smart" is VERY important.
Don't know if you have the time or the willingness to explain stuff to your members, but maybe that might help.

And uhmmm, if you've already tried that often enough, then kicking them out is a good idea, or maybe trying to get them to do other stuff.

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BearJews
Order of Extrodinary Gentlemen
#4 - 2012-04-11 17:30:36 UTC
If they don't listen and continue to fail fit i dunno why you would keep them in your corp.
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#5 - 2012-04-11 18:10:42 UTC
OVUR NIEN THAWZUND!!!
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#6 - 2012-04-11 18:15:56 UTC
depends largley on how well run the corp is and what the corp goals are. A dedicated pvp corp such as mine is going to have a large pool of good/very good pilots.
Annie Anomie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-11 18:19:48 UTC
Pareto distribution applies.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#8 - 2012-04-11 18:49:32 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
Well i know from my own experience ( as a pilot ), that WHY a certain fit is "not smart" is VERY important.
Don't know if you have the time or the willingness to explain stuff to your members, but maybe that might help.

.


You can explain stuff and offer resources to help them become better. A few will take take advantage of it. But most are pretty lackadaisical that you literally have to toss your hands up and say "I give up" and just hope that they're not a complete liability during fleet fights.

Speaking as a recruiter who have literally screened close to several hundred applicants, you can cut down on the number of morons by having a standardized recruitment process. Ask tough questions and vet the applicant thoroughly to ensure they meet your expectations of a competent combat pilot. Though, there is that balance between maintaining a professional atmosphere while still being fun and casual.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#9 - 2012-04-11 18:51:09 UTC
BearJews wrote:
If they don't listen and continue to fail fit i dunno why you would keep them in your corp.


Meatshields?

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Grog Drinker
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-11 19:02:16 UTC
Everyone in my corp is incompetent and bad. Engage at will.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#11 - 2012-04-11 19:11:24 UTC
Grog Drinker wrote:
Everyone in my corp is incompetent and bad. Engage at will.


So am I the only paranoid one thinking... If I tell you we are a pvp corp filled with bad pilots, you'll just war dec us to pad your killboards.
Annie Anomie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-11 19:27:48 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Grog Drinker wrote:
Everyone in my corp is incompetent and bad. Engage at will.


So am I the only paranoid one thinking... If I tell you we are a pvp corp filled with bad pilots, you'll just war dec us to pad your killboards.


Being concerned about war decs sends the same message.
roboto212
EVE University
Ivy League
#13 - 2012-04-11 19:39:42 UTC
Oh umm ya we are teribad please don't war Dec us either.


If you thought about it and decided not to feel free to send the war Dec fee to me instead.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#14 - 2012-04-11 19:45:10 UTC
Confirming QCATS is fail. Please don't war dec us either.
Klown Walk
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-11 20:01:24 UTC
My corp is perfect.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#16 - 2012-04-11 21:37:21 UTC
AUTOZ is 110% incompetent bads. Poor Hans.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-11 21:49:19 UTC
What would be the difference between a dumbass and a noob? Especially considering you can play this game for 3 years and still learn completely new and sometimes obvious things.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-04-11 22:14:00 UTC
I reckon about half are below average ... unless someone wants to play with clever distributions :-)

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
drdxie
#19 - 2012-04-11 23:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: drdxie
In fleet pvp the fleet is only as dumb as the FC. If the FC is unclear in his commands, not firm in his fleet composition, not strict with comms and fleet actions.. the fleet will fail. I have been in many fleets, and 90% of the FC's shout and curse and panic. The other 10% were calm collective and have won against bigger odds because of it.
Sadly I form part of the 90%, but understand this and leave FC'ing to the pro's, so put me in the incompetent category, but depending on the FC, me and my fellow incompetents never lemming, are always fit right and make good fearless bait.

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#20 - 2012-04-12 01:13:29 UTC
As my sig suggests, you need all types in your corp. As CEO of Sudden Buggery, I expressly employ idiots and incompetent fools to make me look good. Without someone clogging up the killboard with losses and stumbling through wormholes against orders, I would be primaried every single time I came on the field.

By employing deaf-mute multiple amputee autistic basement dwelling nerds, I ensure that only I get the top killer spot on my killboard. Besides, if a CEO only employed elite PVPers, people would swiftly realise I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and my ability to extort fat billions from their taxes would disappear.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
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