Jita Park Speakers Corner

Rants aside, I see that there is no CCP feedback at the discussion thread about the changes to wardec mechanics, and so i ask the CSM themselves.

Has been there some CSM level discussion on the suggested changes?
Has CCP shown interest on the pretty negative backup gathered by the proposal?
Is CCP aware of the potential abuses already denounced?
Is CCP aware of the suggestions that wardeccing smalholders and non-PvP should be more expensive to larger and deadlier corporations?
Has someone shown interest to ask non-PvP players what would they expect from the changes proposed to wardec system?

1. Yes

2. I'd dispute your assesment that the feedback is "pretty negative." Some people would prefer to have a PVP optional EVE and thankfully for the rest of us they're being ignored. Players who understand and like that **** happens in EVE have seemed receptive to the general thrust of the changes, usually voicing their displeasure with the proposed cost, having questions about the allies system and how it will work, or highlighting some potential abuses if the changes went live verbatim. CCP has been made aware of those types of negative feedback.

3. As my answer above would suggest, yes. Can't really tell you about there response + details due to NDA but they seem receptive to the feedback from the CSMs and players about how to polish and adjust the mechanics. We're just a week into the term but I'll say I feel largely positive about the next 2 months of communications between CCP and CSM on the war stuff and leave it at that.

4. I don't know if they're aware of those suggestions or not but if they are they're being ignored, again thankfully. The new war dec costs will at least partially be based on the size of the target, and if you want to dec a bigger target you'll have to pay more for it than a small one. Wars in general will be more expensive so small corps will be more costly to dec than they are right now, however it will be MORE costly to dec larger corps. The type of corp or how they view themselves will not factor into it (is there a data base flag for "non PVP" and PVP? No. There is not.), so a mining corp will not be any more or less expensive than a missioning corp or pirate corp of the same size (I'm not honestly sure why you think it would be but you asked).

5. Yep. You have several self described non-PVPers on the council (Issler, Kelduum) and they are both following the war mechanics discussions intently, offering their perspective. Additionally I've reached out to some people I know do not really want to be bothered by decs but understand what they do + why they're there for their feedback; I'm sure the other CSMs have their own channels to reach out to their networks and do the same.

EDIT: Also your sig is inaccurate. Kel and Issler live in highsec. Arguably me and Trebor are also highsec residents, since we dont really fall into any other catagory. Might want to update it.

Is your local posting that terribad?

BTW, someone asked this:

If i am in a miner corp and someone wardecs us solely to prevent us from playing the game, how exactly can we avoid being at war and keep playing w/o surrendering to blackmail or dismantling our corporation?

Surely it makes a lot of sense that your customers pay for not being allowed to play your game, doesn't it?

Anyone of you smartasses got an answer?

Election tip:

Vote for Trebor in local first.
Then after they vote you kill them.

Excellent idea. What about if I offered something tangible for a vote... say, a PLEX? Do you think that might work?

I am more in the line of finding you and breaking your knees.

No, it's an endorsement of EVE: Retaliation by other means.

This game is too much about pussies playing bullies from behind CCP's skirts.

You cant surrender if the attacker does not accept it?


On a sidenote doesn't CSM repressent the whole of the playerbasis? Or does CSM represent only the peeveepeers and the "eve is a pure PVP game where everyone has to pvp when and where i want it?"

To my mind 'working as intended.'

The proliferation of carebears banding together was never an intended mechanic of 'the game'. That it has happened is really a sad result of what has long been a broken mechanic. Corps and alliances where designed as to enable a group of players to band together for mutual protection and advancement. I think it is truely a bad mechanic that allows 'mining' corps or 'PvP' corps to exist.
What EvE truely needs is a vast inflation rate untill PvP corps are unable to function in the 'optimal' ship types with-out a vast industrial backing. And industry deserves to be griefed out of the game if they are operating with-out a PvP group that is beholden to them.
While eve is a sandbox and all should be able to play in what-ever manner that they can make the mechanics work for them I would like to see the mechanics designed to force members of DIFFERENT playstyles to band together for mutual advancement.