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financial and Industrial tracking website - gone public

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Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-12 12:08:06 UTC
WolfeReign wrote:
The site itself looks really well set up so most likely low maintenance once all the bugs get worked out.....though the problem with bugs is that they can survive the apocalypse. Blink


Not with you guys on the case o.O

Report 'em n consider them exterminated..... eventually

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Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-04-16 00:53:42 UTC
Ohrite folks. Been a good weekend for me and I've just pushed up the latest code base. Couple of fixes and introduction of new features

Corporation control : Create your own corporation group and start managing your corp wide industry jobs and financial affairs
Create Corporate projects which appear on the list of all your corp members who are registered
Create request projects to get someone in your corporation to build you that certain ite
Create quotes for other registered users in own corp or in other corps. Quotes appear on their own project list as well as yours

Corporations can be created and managed from the User Options sectio

Fixed confusion surrounding ammunition and "quantity". Quantity now properly relabeld as runs. back ground calculation now take into account the portionsize so 100 runs of Carbonized lead will produce 100'000 units of ammo
Extra column "produces" added to manufacturing
Projects creation relabled as Runs as well. Entering 100 capacitor booster 800s in creation will show 1000 units in Item list (1 run makes 100 units)...... So remember items produced = runs * BP Batc

there are more corporate features to add over the next week so stay tuned.

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Kylara Phoenix
Space Defence Force
#23 - 2012-04-16 09:34:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kylara Phoenix
Howdy.

I got this message when trying to add my corp API details:

Quote:
Tell Raath you got an error number 7139
Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-04-16 09:37:54 UTC
Kylara Phoenix wrote:
Howdy.

I got this message when trying to add my corp API details:

Quote:
Tell Raath you got an error number 7139


oooh! am on it right now

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Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-16 09:51:17 UTC
That should have fixed it. Try again

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Jastra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-04-16 10:46:59 UTC
very nice, I tried the project widget and for manufacturing cap recharger IIs manufacturing xx runs it tells me it needs xx times occult data interfaces which whacked half a billion onto the production costs ShockedLol

is this me or something that needs addressing, love the site though, the ability to save projects is very handy for stuff you do regularly, good stuff

Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-04-16 11:14:38 UTC
couple of messages for clarity on corporate management.

By default site operates on personal mode. so everything you do will only be viewed and accessed by you except in cases where someone assigns you viewing rights in the access tab on projects. If someone enters you as a trustee that project will appear on your list and you can interact with it as if it's yours, assigning transactions, industry jobs, material reports etc

When someone creates a corporate group though, you will get 2 options when creating projects instead of the text Personal. The 2 options are Personal and Request. Requests appear in the project lists as quotes.
Select this option, select the corporation group, select the character you want this request to appear to everyone else as and choose your item(s),
Before anyone can interact with it, a price needs to be given and accepted then it will appear in the list of everyone in that corporation.

Admin

there are 2 levels to corporate administrations. Admin can change the CAK and assign roles. Project managers can do all the project managy things but can't access admin console. characters can have both admin and project roles assigned (those of you who have already created your corps, add project to your list of roles, will happen by default for everyone else now)

you will get a drop down when creating projects. Still the option for personal jobs, but now with corporation for the corp wide projects and quotes as well.
corp projects will imediately appear in the list for everyone to interact with. to create a corporate project, select it from the list, select the corporation group, select your character (only your characters appear here) you want the project to appear responsible for, enter the item(s) you want created and submit.

Quotes can be created for anyone. in corp or out of corp, they are handled the same way.
Creating quotes for someone not registered will appear in their list of projects when they do register automagically.
People outside the corporation can only see the quote progress screen, people in corp who don't have project managers roles can only see the project. Project managers can see everything (corpoate or quotes, personal projects are still kept personal).
Creating a quote is similar to a request except there is an extra called Client Name where you enter who the item is for and a due date. If you leave the due date alone system will suggest a due date depending on what it is your're building. Sub cap ships are around 4-5 days while capitals are build time * 2.5 (to take into account the build time of capital parts + resource collection). Generally around 28 days.

the reason that the Request option on material reports is disabled is because that bit ties into a bit of the site that needs a lot more work. As the name suggests, it is a wish list of stuff that you want. but before I go into too much on that, I'll spend the next couple of days fielding the bugs you throw my way.

Projects have statuses that can be changed. In the project view, click on the Green Active, select a new status. Use them as appropriate.
Due dates can be changed by clicking on the due date (see the cursor go pointy, means there's soemthing clickety there)
Flags on the project list let you set priority. Handy for corporate management to let folks know which project to concentrate on first.

Clarrifying runs in manufacturing - with some item types, 1 BP run creates multiple amounts. EG capacitor boosters create 10 units per run. so 10 runs makes 100, 1000 runs makes 10'000 etc. So this is why some material responses looked out, because I hadn't made it clear. the math was right, but the output was not.
If you create a project of 100 runs of Cap Booster 800s the project will show quantity as 1000. 100 x 10 = 1000....

that should cover most of the mails this morning.

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Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-04-16 11:15:37 UTC
Jastra wrote:
very nice, I tried the project widget and for manufacturing cap recharger IIs manufacturing xx runs it tells me it needs xx times occult data interfaces which whacked half a billion onto the production costs ShockedLol

is this me or something that needs addressing, love the site though, the ability to save projects is very handy for stuff you do regularly, good stuff



Yes, that needs addressing. It has been raised and on the list :) might as well get onto it now with DT on me

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Andy DelGardo
#29 - 2012-04-16 11:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy DelGardo
Looks promising so far, but i have a problem with certain items i want to plan via "New Project". Basically the drop down list opens, but i cant select a given item. As example try enter "Investor Tracking Disruptor I", it will list in the search menu, but i cant select it?

bye Andy
Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-04-16 11:44:28 UTC
Andy DelGardo wrote:
Looks promising so far, but i have a problem with certain items i want to plan via "New Project". Basically the drop down list opens, but i cant select a given item. As example try enter "Investor Tracking Disruptor I", it will list in the search menu, but i cant select it?

bye Andy


PM me with browser and OS you're using. you can use the keyboard to cursor navigate items as well and return to select. You have to select the item from the drop down list to add it to the "shopping list" below the ME/PE/runs entry.

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Andy DelGardo
#31 - 2012-04-16 11:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy DelGardo
PM send, i also would change to display the summarized price for the content of a container, rather than the price of the container itself in the assets overview. I guess we mainly want to know what the whole container content is worth, than what the container itself costs.

thx Andy


PS: I really like the visual icon based lists, helps to faster see/select things, compared to pure text lists.
Ishanmae
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-04-16 12:47:07 UTC
Hey, sounds like great and useful work!

I've been trying to register, but the process seems to fail after character selection.

The page .../register/save only shows the header, left hand menu and footer, with no contents.

Tried both on FF 11.0 and on IE 8, both on Windows XP.
Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-04-16 12:53:14 UTC
Ishanmae wrote:
Hey, sounds like great and useful work!

I've been trying to register, but the process seems to fail after character selection.

The page .../register/save only shows the header, left hand menu and footer, with no contents.

Tried both on FF 11.0 and on IE 8, both on Windows XP.


Hmmmm.... I just tried it with one of my spare toons and it worked. You should get an email through with a link to activate. If you have no email, private message me the char name you registered with and I'll look into it

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Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-04-16 13:25:32 UTC
Dr Silkworth wrote:
projectiles batches aren't accounted for either.

Im having a problem isolating why its calling for over 9000 reports to make one purifier also


My bad on that one. I forgot to add a limit to activityID to only select materials needed for manufacturing. Was selecting all the copy and invention stuff as well.

Now fixed so should produce the correct results

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WolfeReign
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-04-16 18:06:48 UTC  |  Edited by: WolfeReign
-So Campaigns...Is their a way to assign projects under a certain campaigns so you can run multiple campaigns at once?

-production time seems to be off for T2 ammo (1 run of T2 Furies takes longer then 30min

-brought this up before (could just be crazy) but the data being pulled for T2 ammunition costs do not correlate with in-game bpc stats. Since the only way to get T2 blueprints (copies) is to use a T1 bpc the data being pulled for the T2 blueprint is not the same when applied in-game. For example to make T2 missiles I have a fully researched/upgraded (whatever its called) T1 bpo that I make copies of and use the copies to make T2 bpc (do not upgrade the t2 bpc farther). with that as the base the production cost varies from what is pulled via the stats you have imported. Leaving ME and PE at 0 and setting it to 1 run, for Scourge Furies, it says I need 88 rocket fuel for 1 run, but in game with the same base the bpc says it requires more then that (I have max Indy skills so that's not an issue). I can fix this by putting negative values in the ME lvl when I create the project but I just thought I'd point this out. Unfortunately with T2 production I think this might be a problem for all values pulled and not just this case


*good work on the site looks astounding and the menus flow very well



Short version, just pointing out some bugs / feature questions up top
Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-04-16 22:53:17 UTC
WolfeReign wrote:
-So Campaigns...Is their a way to assign projects under a certain campaigns so you can run multiple campaigns at once?

-production time seems to be off for T2 ammo (1 run of T2 Furies takes longer then 30min

Short version, just pointing out some bugs / feature questions up top


Keep it coming man. The site is based about my own experiences of industry so folks like you will be finding flaws that I never discovered because I've not branched out into that area. I think it's awesome that you are finding these bugs so keep it coming.

To answer your questions : campaigns - yes! that is something that is half done on another branch. You already can run multiple campaigns if you want. Create as many as you need. I will be expanding the functionaltiy soon once things settle down.
Some of things campaigns will be getting are (as you mentioned) assigning whole projects to a campaign so anything assigned to project gets into campaign,
Automated rules (if in region/const/system/station automatically assign selected items/all to this campaign)
Graphs, barcharts, scatter widgets n things (customizeable probably.... need to look more into that)

I hear what you say about the T2 stuff though. they have funny rules with the negative ME and PE so I'll have a closer look at the math behind it. Not sure about the 30 minutes builds. My own tests show that 1 run of furies takes 11 hours and produces 5000 missiles at PE 0... If this is a project then private message me the details of the project and I'll have a look

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Ozzie Asrail
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-04-17 11:29:55 UTC
Damn this looks nice!

After struggling with various tools that never quite fitted my workflow i was considering writing my own. but you've gone stolen my idea and done it better than i ever could :)

Looking forward to giving it a test soon.
WolfeReign
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-04-17 15:29:58 UTC  |  Edited by: WolfeReign
eve-mail inbound for more of this T2 ammo goodness.

seams I made a mistake in my calculations but the details are in the mail.

p.s. mail was sent from evegate so it may be all wierd in-game (I'm sure you know how that goes)
Ralle030583
Unidentified Murderers and Young Hack Offenders
#39 - 2012-04-17 20:11:33 UTC
So far im impressed of that tool and the time Raath need for bugfixing is also impressing,
Every bug i found and send to him was fixed in minutes when he was on or on the next evening.

Keep up the good work Big smile

Greetings Ralle030583
Raath Nambode
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-04-17 20:30:57 UTC
Ralle030583 wrote:
So far im impressed of that tool and the time Raath need for bugfixing is also impressing,
Every bug i found and send to him was fixed in minutes when he was on or on the next evening.

Keep up the good work Big smile

Greetings Ralle030583


I aim to please

You lot aim at the flashy red thing that's yellow boxing you

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