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Samuel Moore Walton
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#1 - 2012-04-10 04:26:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Samuel Moore Walton
INTRODUCTION: So you want to be a leet pwn?
Everyone knows the only thing that matters in eve is how big your SP pool is, and with the coming inferno patch we have an opportunistic availability to gain more SP for less effort! Your SP pool will be so large after this men and women will cry tears as they see you walking down the halls of the clinic

CHAPTER ONE: I can has (racial) battlecruiser V?

(racial) frigate @ 4
(racial) cruiser @ 3
Battlecruiser @ 5

Well golly I now I have Amarr Winning, Gallente Winning, Caldari winning, and also Winmatar winning

CHAPTER TWO: Good things come in large packages!

The destroyer, what a questionable ship class, well with this exploitative you can at least rest assured you spent the least amount of effort to obtain this dubious technology

(racial) frigate @ 3
Destroyers @ 5

Zasca! we now have interracial destroyer skills

CHAPTER THREE: Living with the guilt

Seriously??!?! If you REALLY feel bad drink two glasses of milk, rub Chribba's belly, and silently curse the name of the Mittani at a small woodland creature until it either runs away or attacks you. Then you will be purged, by fire obviously.
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-04-10 05:08:53 UTC
Confirming this posts makes no ******* sense, but it made me lol.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#3 - 2012-04-10 05:17:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
T' Elk wrote:
Confirming this posts makes no ******* sense, but it made me lol.


Its the change to turn Destroyer and Battlecruiser into 4 different skills each by race as an intro to their ship rebalance as to ship rolls and not constrained to tiers (and hopefully these future changes are so you no longer feel it necessary to go for a specific racial t2 ship just because your main race command ship for example happens to suck horribly)... and cashing in on the fact CCP has stated that players would not lose the ability to fly ships you can already fly before the change.

Racial skills for these classes also opens up the ability to have pirate destroyers and Battlecruisers.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#4 - 2012-04-10 11:33:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Nirnias Stirrum
Did anyone else picture a Catalyst having sex with a thrasher when he said "interracial destroyers"? lol... no? just me then!
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-10 11:37:02 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Did anyone else picture a Catalyst having sex with a thrasher when he said "interracial destroyers"? lol... no? just me then!


...yep, just you.

Dodixie > Hek
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#6 - 2012-04-10 11:50:05 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Shrug... It puts CCP in a difficult position when deciding how to handle the situation.

First off they shouldn't have made destroyers and BC generic skills in the first place. I do remember when they were added to the game, people thought it was strange.

However, they added them and are now dealing with the issues that will come up as they make the transition to racial variants of each skill.

As it stands, I already have the frigate, and cruiser skills of every race at 5. And 2 of the battleship skills.... In addition I have destroyers at 5, and BC at 5 in order to open up interdictors and command ships.

I own two or more of every races field and combat command ships in addition to at least 2 of every races interdictors. If I suddenly couldn't pilot them anymore, I'd have ships trapped in various locations throughout New Eden, including behind POS shields and both high and low sec stations.

While I think the solution they are using is indeed sloppy, I can't really see any other way of them handling it save for scrapping the entire idea of splitting dessie, and bc into racial variants in the first place.

I really dont want to have to spend an additional 114 days (29 days x 3 for 3 races bc to 5 + 9 days x 3 for 3 races destroyers to 5) just to fly ships that I could already fly and own in the first place.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#7 - 2012-04-10 12:13:39 UTC
Samuel Moore Walton wrote:
INTRODUCTION: So you want to be a leet pwn?
Everyone knows the only thing that matters in eve is how big your SP pool is, and with the coming inferno patch we have an opportunistic availability to gain more SP for less effort! Your SP pool will be so large after this men and women will cry tears as they see you walking down the halls of the clinic

In Skill Points as in life, it's not how big it is that counts, it's what you can do with it Blink

And as CCP have stated already (a great many times) what you can do with what you already have isn't going to change.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#8 - 2012-04-10 12:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Grey Azorria wrote:
Samuel Moore Walton wrote:
INTRODUCTION: So you want to be a leet pwn?
Everyone knows the only thing that matters in eve is how big your SP pool is, and with the coming inferno patch we have an opportunistic availability to gain more SP for less effort! Your SP pool will be so large after this men and women will cry tears as they see you walking down the halls of the clinic

In Skill Points as in life, it's not how big it is that counts, it's what you can do with it Blink

And as CCP have stated already (a great many times) what you can do with what you already have isn't going to change.


OP isn't contesting that.

Hes pointing out that people can exploit this prior to the change happening and have an advantage to those who train the skills, and/or new players in general AFTER the change.

And likewise I was pointing out that it may be a sloppy way of handling it, but there aren't many other options for CCP save for scrapping the idea of racial variants of dessie and bc skills.
Mark Androcius
#9 - 2012-04-10 12:37:37 UTC
What is the OP talking about?
Did i miss something? i never read anything like this, where do i find this info?

https://androcius.wordpress.com
malaire
#10 - 2012-04-10 12:42:07 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Hes pointing out that people can exploit this prior to the change happening and have an advantage to those who train the skills, and/or new players in general AFTER the change.


So what?

This isn't first time incoming change can be used to get some extra SP, or some other benefit.

example: When CCP announced that learning skills were going to be taken away, and all SP returned to players, I immediately started training leaning skills because with then-current remap I could train them faster than other skills - and when I got SP back I put it into skills which train slower. So I got some SP benefit. Big smile

And since this new change isn't happening anytime soon, anyone who wants can train Destroyers and Battlecruisers higher if they really want.

New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else
malaire
#11 - 2012-04-10 12:44:44 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
What is the OP talking about?
Did i miss something? i never read anything like this, where do i find this info?

Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills will be removed from game some day, and replaced with 4 racial skills (Caldari Destroyers, Gallente Destroyers, ..., Caldari Battlecruisers, ...)

Initial devblog mentioning this: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9129

New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else
Mark Androcius
#12 - 2012-04-10 12:48:53 UTC
malaire wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
What is the OP talking about?
Did i miss something? i never read anything like this, where do i find this info?

Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills will be removed from game some day, and replaced with 4 racial skills (Caldari Destroyers, Gallente Destroyers, ..., Caldari Battlecruisers, ...)

Initial devblog mentioning this: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9129


Thanks for the link, that's exactly what i was looking for.

https://androcius.wordpress.com