EVE General Discussion

New player here, so bear with me.

Here I am casually running missions just derping around, L3's in my drake just saving up some iskies for the occasional pvp op with my alliance, and all of a sudden i'm getting shot at by the gallente federation.

What the hell is my first question, I haven't knowingly done anything against the rules to **** anyone off like this.

So then I see that my mission agent has been giving me missions that make my standing with the galente dip. Ok, fair enough, i understand that some missions will give me negative standing towards some factions. These missions will exhist.

However, why in the hell is an agent giving me negative standing with the local navy, for doing missions in the same area that the mission sites are in?

Is it me or is this kind of a duh design flaw?

Thx for the reply

One thing i've learned playing the game so far has been there's a reason for about everything and everything is situational, but this is just supreme bullshit...

Theres nothing I can do about it but just what the hell is the reason for it?

There is something you can do. The skill is called Diplomacy. Buy it and then train it up!

Of course there is something I can do, but that isn't the issue.

The issue is why is the system the way it is.

It is the Gallante Federation that is shooting at me, not the navy, I misspoke.

Are you on your Corp's home turf? If so, you're in Amarr space, Gallente Federation isn't the local navy, and it's entirely logical that you should get missions that drop your Gallente standing.

To punish those who don't pay attention. That would be my guess. There are aspects of the game that will hurt you if you don't play well. This covers robotic PvE as well.

The normal thing to do is to decline the missions that are against any of the 4 major factions. It's good to be in systems that have a few lvl3-4 agents. If you decline a mission you have to wait 4 hours before you can decline again without your standings getting lowered. EG. declining 2 missions right after the other and you'll lose standings with them.

If you do it right some pirate factions will get really low standings. Of the 4 main factions, 2 will have high standings towards you and the other 2 will be kinda low but not that bad that they will attack you.

Edit: The system is this: Main factions like Gallente standings only go really low if you take missions that have you actually shooting Gallente/Minmatar ships. Which is why you decline those missions.

Stations can be owned by corps that aren't in the local faction. There are Galente owned stations in Amarr space, etc etc.

If it isn't Concord then it's Gallente navy. It could be Customs. Are you transporting illegal goods? :P

Repair your faction standing and then make sure you do not accept the missions which have a negative impact on it anymore.

Yeah it sucks, but it's something that has been that way for quite some time and likewise something mission runners have learned to deal with.

TLDR - Train diplomacy to 3 or 4 (will only burn a little over a day to get to 4)

The reason this can happen is basically because for every group you make happier there is a group that you will be pissing off. That is by design. Newer players in PVE often do not see the mechanic very well until something happens to them. There is a 'standings' field on your character sheet with two tabs, 'liked by' and 'disliked by' with the highest (or lowest) scores shown on top. You should also see a mention of a modifier if you have Connections (for good standings) and Diplomacy (for bad standings).

So how could this happen to you? NPC corps are spread around all of the systems, but the NPC corps themselves may be with a faction that in direct opposition to your region. An example of this is the QUAFE company, found everywhere in high-sec, is actually a Gallente corp. They will give you missions against opposing factions. You can see what faction in the mission description because there is a little flag in the agent conversation window on the right hand pane.

In the case of QUAFE, they might be giving you missions to shoot at Amarrian or Caldari ships or structures. Each one you pop lowers your standing just a little bit more. Over time this will lower your standings to the point that the faction navy for that group will open fire on you.

The problem is that one of two things can happen along the way. In the QUAFE example you might be in a mission shooting Amarrian ships and suddenly tick over to being a hostile but you are currently in Amarr space (because QUAFE stations are everywhere) and 'ta-da' you have the faction navy showing up to pop you. The other thing that happens, more common I think, is that you are at the edge of a hostile navy border and your autopilot picks the shortest route to your mission that happens to have a jump or two through the hostile space and you get shot at in route.

Some of the cooler pieces of gear you get in game comes from the LP store where you can spend 'Loyal Points' along with isk and tags to get things. Those tags come from shooting at opposing faction ships. You either need to do it yourself or you need to buy them. If you want the benefit from the LP store, you might have to kill people they don't like.

One last note, while for most new players the term 'faction' only applies to the four playable races, in truth there are many other groups. Some people will go out to 0.0 space and grind rep with the Angel's cartel to get the faction tags and the cool blueprints, but they may not be welcomes back to certain high-sec faction space after doing so. Again, this is all by deisgn.