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Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-10 21:05:20 UTC
Aina Sasaki wrote:
Agreed. CCP won't be intervening just because of drakes.


I'm using Drake as a marker, not saying it's causative. If the Drake spikes to 70m, nothing happens, if prices in general rise to the point where a Drake costs 70m - CCP will intervene in the market to prevent subscriber loss.
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-04-10 21:08:43 UTC
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu.


Why?
A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today.
The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine.


Personally, I prefer to buy my minerals off the market then mine them.

If we get to the point where not mining is a major problem for Null sec alliances, I expect null sec PvPers will find another game to play, not start mining.
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-04-10 21:17:28 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu.


Why?
A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today.
The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine.


Personally, I prefer to buy my minerals off the market then mine them.

If we get to the point where not mining is a major problem for Null sec alliances, I expect null sec PvPers will find another game to play, not start mining.


Nah, they'll just recruit a few miners...or bring an indy corp into the alliance. PvPers won't stop playing just because it's not feasible to do it in the same way they used to.
EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2012-04-10 21:53:36 UTC
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu.


Why?
A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today.
The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine.

things you mine are free am i rite
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-11 00:08:10 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:


Nah, they'll just recruit a few miners...or bring an indy corp into the alliance. PvPers won't stop playing just because it's not feasible to do it in the same way they used to.


Even back in the day successful PvP alliances never brought in Indy corps (though I suppose it depends on what you think of ASCN). PvP alliances might rent space to indy corps, but they are not going to actually mine the roids on a large scale basis. With CCPs current policy about bot ISK, I'm not sure if renting space is still a viable option.
Adunh Slavy
#26 - 2012-04-11 00:38:49 UTC
Lots of these so called PVP alliances have members with alts on their main's account flying hulks, freighters, etc. They don't invite industrial corps because they are industrial corps.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Hemmo Paskiainen
#27 - 2012-04-11 00:44:40 UTC
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu.


Why?
A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today.
The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine.


the minerals you mine are free...correct?; the only alliances that ate going to get hurt are the ones without tech moons..

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Hemmo Paskiainen
#28 - 2012-04-11 00:52:11 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Lots of these so called PVP alliances have members with alts on their main's account flying hulks, freighters, etc. They don't invite industrial corps because they are industrial corps.


you are a winner sir!... how else is pvp being funded. woops just lost a t2 hac thats 1/3rd monthly gametime value... besides its not like everyones got by now highsec incursion alts... ow.. wait...

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Adunh Slavy
#29 - 2012-04-11 01:02:12 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:

you are a winner sir!... how else is pvp being funded. woops just lost a t2 hac thats 1/3rd monthly gametime value... besides its not like everyones got by now highsec incursion alts... ow.. wait...



Plenty of that going on too, also plenty living in worm holes, doing missions and trade, invention, etc.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
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