Warfare & Tactics

I say 2 months before it stabalizes to near early eve era times. Where future hulkageddons might get boo'ed at depending how far they're going to nerf the hell out of gun mining, if they go all the way alot of people are going to get screwed.

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CCP has publicly gone on a bot banning rage and stated they will be banning them daily from now on. It's hard to determine how much of the price rise is from the bot bans vs the speculation on this affair.

CCP has stated they will nerf the Drone lands causing less minerals to be pumped into the economy.

CCP have also previously nerfed lvl 4 mission loot that used to be refined to minerals and if Im' not mistaken are planning to nerf it more.

CCP nerfed the Pax reprocessing that helped cap prices on certain minerals.

CCP added incursions & WH's and moved LVL 5's all to low sec which are all changes that have had some effect on the mineral prices because less players are doing LVL 4's & 5's and reprocessing their loot drops.

This is 5 things I can think of off the top of my head that have helped cause rising prices that are a direct result of CCP's actions on the market paired with player speculation. CCP has hence failed to react and soften the blow to ease the player base into the new changes but instead have allowed the market to run amok.

Player caused issues

War in Drone lands, but at this point I'd suspect bot bannings might pay a bigger roll at this point.

Suicide ganks probably play a rolll as well but I doubt it's a heavy impact on prices as side from speculation about hulkageddon and that's likely only issues with prices of Hulks & Macks.

Market speculation due to all the changes & announcements CCP has carelessly made with no intervention and more of a welp lets see what happens approach.

This has lead to ship prices doubling in price in less than 2 months and CCP is doing nothing to reverse this so it's of course going to get worse. This causes people to grind more to replace their losses because in most cases shipping down "isn't" a option which leads to less PVP in the long run.


I look forward to 80 million ISK Drakes & 20 million ISK Ruptures..

At first I read this as baseless alarmism from a guy who doesn't remember that ships used to be pretty expensive back in the days of RRBS being one of the two fleet comps that could be flown. Then I remembered MNG is never wrong, so I went and double checked, and he's totally not wrong. The dev blog totally says that every cap and supercap fleet in the game will be losing their ships to allow us a more level PvP playing field and every money moon is getting straight up removed from the game to facilitate more cruiser and frigate fights.

Fortunately, since his exhaustive list doesn't include Muninns or Drakefleet, I can just go and apply to Black Legion and win win win.

And thus, people shall buy more plex to remove the huge isk stockpiles from some people so plex buyers can afford the more expensive ships.

Working as intended.

Wow, I better put my tinfoil hat on.

Yes, mineral prices have doubled in a month. The Pax nerf certainly helped me make a couple of billion on nocxium in a couple of hours, and facilitated transfer of stranded pools of material in the dronelands to hisec. But mostly the price rise is speculation caused by the massive pools of ISK washing around EVE.

CCP is not intervening because they almost certainly are monitoring the flow of minerals from mining, to manufacture, and coming to the conclusion there is stockpiling going on. Indeed, there are 279 trillion units of trit in the game currently; that is a fairly hefty chunk of material which could flow into the market once everyone sees the hoarding flip to dumping. Hence, it is not CCP's prerogative to adjust mineral prices when the players themselves are creating the problem.

Stop whining that other kids are playing in your sandbox, and mine more sand. Though probably give the hulk a rest from the 28th April for a week, I'd suggest.

Don't Touch My HellKitty xD

If there is a problem CCP can just increase mining yields. Higher ship costs less pvp more unsubs.