Warfare & Tactics

Mineral prices are shooting through the roof because of speculation and folks buying mins up to profit from the very thing they are doing.


I bet 5 PLEX that min prices will go down significantly once the expansion goes live (give or take a few weeks).

People will cash in (or try to) on their huge stockpiles of minerals and then mission runners will pick up the slack by actually salvaging and looting their missions. A few more miners might dust off their ships as well.

In the end, prices will likely only be what they were 2 years ago. If not lower.

I hope I live to see the day supercapital blobs go extinct. Capital blobs going the way of the dodo would also be nice, but it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens, and cap blobs aren't nearly as bad as supercap blobs.

Unless all their miners just took a two weeks, or longer, vacation.

You do realise supply for some minerals is about to get a massive shaft right?

If anything high ends are going to end up higher due to this. Speculation will cause crashes and spikes in the price over the first weeks before and after the patch. They'll eventually balance out as stocks are reduced and supply < demand kicks in causing an increase in price over the following months.

If you think ships are expensive now, well my dear, I hope you're stocking up on them, because high end minerals are definitely going to rise another 20-40% at least. I've done well enough speculation on this, the math and logic suggest I'm right. It's also why me, and many traders, put in hundreds of billions in this, even our stocks will deplete eventually as demand for minerals is quite large.

Okay. Tell me, specifically, HOW CCP is raising prices on the market. What method are they using? Are they going into the data files and changing numbers? How is this being done? Answer this and maybe the OP has a point. Don't answer it, and I can see why you're blocked, OP.

However, you go further and claim CCP is "fixing the economy so..." Okay. How are they doing it? Or, is this some mystery thing only CCP knows, and we're benefitting from your rapier like nostril abilities....you smell a rat? Go ahead. Take as much space as you need.

How is CCP raising prices on the market?
How is CCP "fixing it so" you can't buy these ships?

hellcat = a certain pulse Abaddon fitting
thundercat = a certain heavy missile Tengu fitting

With mineral inflation CCP buffs tears!

Has any other game company managed this innovation before?

I was there.

the op can not be more wrong ccp has always made it clear that they want the players to move into lowsec and null sec. this is a classic mistake made by most mmo owners :trying to control the players. ccp cant stand it they want players to mine and mission only as a means to support a pvp habit. sorry ccp most of us play pve more than anything i know several players who only mine. i refuse to mine its no fun missions are fun. 70% of my time online is doing missions the rest is shuffling pi orders and building pos and sov items. i have no interest in going to low sec where 40 snot nosed kids in gank squads will pwn me. that being said ccp is nerfing mission drops because they hate mission runners with a purple passion. same with the drone poo nerf. they crashed the market by removing npc shuttle sales and the economy has not really been the same since. by nerfing drops they are hoping to get more ppl to mine in low sec. nope i m still not doing it. anyone who says mission runners and incursion fleets make too much isk are nitwits or too lazy to do it themselves.

Demand is already much higher than it will be after the change.

Yes prices of Zyd and Mega are going to be higher than they were before the announcement. However, at their current prices (which are still rising as people continue to stock up), they will be in a chaotic state once people drop their mins, and then after that settles they will still recover to less than whatever they peak at before the change. And the other mins (normal HS stuff) will likely be close to what it was prior to the announcement, instead of the inflation we see now.

I'll gladly eat my hat if I turn out to be wrong.

When do ship insurance prices get adjusted to reflect current market mineral values? Is that an automatic process or does CCP need to manually do that?