Science & Industry

Then:

- Remove invention
- Give more T2 BPOs to current active T2 BPO owners
- Allow them to "copy" job to other slots in same system (only one print per item is needed)
- If there's not enough free slots for T2 BPO owner jobs with highest % completed will be canceled (only if T1 job)

Currently profit you as T2 BPO owner get from your investment is very small. That should be fixed.
And because we are in cold and harsh universe cap between elite players and lesser players should be bigger.

Either you're trying (and horribly failing) to set up a straw man, or you've changed your mind in the most absurd way.

Either way, you need help.

The breaking of the BPO bottleneck of T2 production was intentional. Leaving BPOs in place to provide a baseline supply of uncommon items was equally intentional.

Quote and Link where anyone of substance has suggested removing Invention or Buffing BPOs.

You got that wrong.

Elite players: players who get info about upcoming changes 2-3 months before everyone else so they can adapt. Like for example this barge change. These players started crafting thousands of Retrievers and are now just waiting the moment they can start creating minerals from thin air by reprocessing those Retrievers.

Normal EVE players: players who need to adapt to changes after the changes have been publicly announced. Players without hacking/exploiting skills.

No info about barge changes in February/March on forums...

Hi, please dont throw with terms around wich you dont understand



Are T2 BPO`s owners the only party that can supply T2 things?- No.
Are the products made from BPO`s any different to Invention-made products?- No.
Have T2 BPO`s ever created a Monopoly?- No, they didnt, at best a oligopoly before invention was introduced

tl;dr
Monopoly has and had never anything to do with this

That's so strange. I could have sworn my Alt was creating T2 items identical to those produced by BPOs without access to any T2 BPO. Was I creating fake merchandise?

Anyone want to buy knockoff T2 Invulns?

Well, the proper phrasing I should have used would have needed to be
"the oligopoly on T2 production by T2 BPO owners which allowed cartels or other forms of informal price-fixing agreements to naturally spring up"
instead of
"the monopoly on T2 production"
shorthand I did use.

To elaborate on the choice of shorthand, in practical terms, for items with demand beyond production capability of T2 BPOs, an oligopoly on T2 production was pretty much the same as a monopoly on T2 production anyway, since it was fairly obvious for T2 BPO owners that they WILL get to sell their product either way (so it was only a matter of how fast you wanted the funds).
Also, in some cases, there COULD have been an actual monopoly (as opposed to an oligopoly), if anybody managed to get their hands on all T2 BPOs of a certain type of item, or at least, all the ones being actively used.
The only significant differences from a monopolistic-looking market back in pre-invention-times showed up for items with supply capabilities in excess of demand, but those items were junk before, and still are mostly junk today too (barring infrequent buffs which have raised some items from junk to "meh" status, and in rarer cases, maybe even "fair" status).

This whole monopoly/oligopoly/cartel thing (which is mostly just a semantics distinction from a practical standpoint) was supposed to contrast with the invention "anybody can build T2 stuff" possibility.
The lottery always had a FIXED supply of BPOs slowly and gradually seeded inside (with max numbers which were hand-set by CCP, but injected randomly). Continuing the lottery would have done nothing for the monopoly/oligopoly status - you'd just have more possible oligopolists (or a higher production capability for monopolists).
Barring setting the max numbers of T2 BPOs so high that ALL items would have had a potential max supply well in excess of demand, only invention (or something similar to it) that would allow virtually limitless (ignoring material availability issues and such) amounts of T2 goods to be created would alleviate the cartel/oligopoly/monopoly market state.

Stop lying. Most (if not all) blueprints have a base invented ME/PE of -4/-4. You can't even get the basic mechanics right.

Second, if you think the products made from BPOs are different than those made from invention, show me how to distinguish between a T2 item built from a BPO and one built through invention.

''Stop lying'' so T2BPO and inventions have the same M and P efficiency? Well good to know we can close this thread now and that CCP has finally fixed it's most terrible mistake after all these years . Hint, hint CCP, fix T2BPO bring invented T2 BPC's up to spec with regards to M & P efficiency.

Nope, just checked the BPO's and CCP still giving it's pet players and corps huge hand outs that continue to this day in the form of unending T2BPO productions. Anyway blah the only way to set things right now would be a complete server restart where CCP admits the mistakes it made by constantly interfering and giving it's mates 'cool stuff' and then removing stuff that other players managed to get off their own back.

Example goon FW manipulation.
CCP ''What? someone has obtained trillions of isk worth of content with out us placing it straight into their lap? Take it, take it ALL!''