Science & Industry

Q A) What are T2BPO?

T2BPO stands for Tech Two Blueprint Original. They are in game items that allow the creation of TECH II items with out the need for an invention process

Where did they come from?

They were seeded into the game in a variety of ways

1. They were dropped by Rats in certain systems. Many deemed this unfair and pointed to the fact that CCP were intentionally aiming drops at particularly alliances/corps by generating the drop in their space

2. They were given out in a lottery that required research points as tickets. Many deemed this unfair as it gave those with far larger banks of research point ie older players a distinct advantage. Information about the workings of the lottery were also released to key players. This information was regarding the amount of BPO's in each individual lottery and how many tickets were participating. This gave key players insight into which lottery to enter giving them far greater chances of obtaining T2BPO's. Some even rumour that the lottery was in no way random and that CCP employee's simply chose which players to gift BPO's

3. They were simply handed as assets in secret to certain players by CCP

4. An incident where non authorised handing of T2 BPO to a player from a CCP employee occurred. These BPO's were recovered but not after several EVE players were sanctioned for bringing the incident to light. (Discussing Bans is bannable, so I best not go into this too much less I get banned). Simply put CCP's behaviour over the incident could be described disgusting at best

Q B) Who owns them?

1. Players that obtained items as stated above

2. Players who have WORKED for them by other means and purchased them from players who were gifted them using ISK

3. Players who purchased them illegally using RMT

4. Players who ganked them out of ships or stole them from corp while unlocked

Q C) Why are there calls to remove them?

1. They were seeded and distributed into the game unfairly

2. Figures have been released by CCP revealing the extent of the wealth they can generate at little effort

3. They can be locked in corp hangers and still used but not stolen unless through a corp vote they are unlocked. (makes zero sense if the item is locked it should not be able to be used.)

4. In many cases the invention process can not compete with the BPO but this does vary from item to item

5. They never expire and have unlimited runs

Q D) How should they be removed?

1. Immediately by returning spent RP and taking the BPO out of game

2. If owning player paid ISK for them the trade should be reverted and ISK returned while original owner is reimbursed with research points

Q E) How will TECH II be produced after removal?

By invention process which allows fair competition

Q F) Anything else that should be known?

1. Some T2BPO are not profitable due to limited demand for the produced item.
2. Some T2 items do not have a T2BPO but require invention as sole creator
3. Burning copies of T2BPO reqs items as well as time and copying costs
4. The % of the market the BPO covers varies immensely between items
5. The retail cost of the BPO's vary immensely between items.
6. Read other posts

Shut UP about them already. Sick of hearing it.

Another thread? Really, we're used to multiple T2 BPO threads round these parts, they're a regular occurrence, but when one person starts multiple threads in a few days it gets a little silly.

Look, we've been over this for *years*. There actually are some reasonable arguments for the removal of T2 BPOs but you consistently fail to hit *any* of them, blow up years old space drama, spout some really uninformed drivel as fact and in the process you weaken your own argument hopelessly.



Just this one quote from above is a face / palm moment - BPO locking has no particular relevance to T2 BPOs in the slightest, and locking and use from locked prints (T1 as well) has a very valid and common use. Yet somehow you seem to think this is somehow proof of some ongoing conspiracy between evil devs and evil players against you.


As someone who has *some* sympathy for the position that T2 BPOs time are up I would ask you to cease making such unbelievably misinformed weak strawman arguments. I don't want to look so frothy mouthed by association.

I just feel an element of risk should be involved in sharing blueprints, I agree all blue prints should be unlocked to allow corp manufacture. It's like letting some one borrow a ship but having CCP return it if he steals it. Same should apply to blueprints if locked they should be inascessible for manufacture.

Also the last thread was locked or I would not have started this thread which I will keep updated as I feel strongly about tech II BPO and the need for overdue removal from game.

Still waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is.

He's either trolling or just doesn't want to listen to any other perspectives on this topic other than his own.

Just ignore him from now on and his thread crusade will die. Problem solved.

You dont even read what other people write in your threads or you would know that i started 2009 and made the isk from invention.

If there is no problem with T2BPO just let NPC stations sell it like T1 and foget the massive price tag just make them cheap and easy, That's the way CCP's pets have it allready with their private T2BPO.

Sadly there is a problem there was problem with the very idea of T2 BPO running alongside invention: the corrupt and unfair way in which T2BPO were seeded just made matters worse.

Yes, everyone has the chance of getting T2 BPO. That everyone has a chance to buy a T2 BPO does not mean that everyone will have a T2 BPO. Almost all players prefer to put their isk into stuff that creates more ingame fun for them or provides a better return on investment.
The fact that everyone has the chance to get rich does not mean that everyone will be rich.
The beauty of free market is that even if a lot more people want to buy a T2 BPO everyone still will be able to open contract menu and buy one. Its not like in communism where the stores just are empty.
If demand raises, the price will raise too, making sure that there is always supply ready for people who want to buy this glorious waste of isk.

Do you realize there are rules against reopening threads that have been locked????
BTW still a bad troll -1/10