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Culmen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-04-07 20:36:29 UTC
Just want to point out one thing evreybody seems to be missing.
The rigs are ALL FITTING RIGS.

One T2 rig to reduce CPU usage of guns, 2 rigs to improve PG.
None of which are needed if you got decent skills.

For 33 billion he could have bought a decent toon.

There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
Sphit Ker
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-04-07 20:37:29 UTC
The Dominix had neuts and that's the only thing that made this kill possible. Without the Domi presence, it could tank both T3s permanently without breaking a sweat, probably all 3. Still, only TWO plain standard T2 heavy neuts is all it takes to tip over that tank.

It's both sad and funny.

I believe this perfectly points out the extreme discrepancy of PVE and PVP tanking/fitting/whatever. If THAT isn't enough to take on 3 PVP ships, what the **** does?

It knows what you think.
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-04-07 20:41:06 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
I can get enough tank to tank ANY mission with just a Gistii X-Type X-Large Shield booster, 3 CCC rigs and 2 capacitor flux coils (cap stable). (And faction specific hardeners, blah blah blah).

Even before I had the Gistii booster, I could get through any mission with a gank-tank by not triggering spawns until I was ready.


You're not going to convince me it doesn't take lots of warping out. Eventually the worst case scenario will happen, and you'll be scrammed when you usually warp out, and boom.

I'm just speaking from my own experience, doing enough L4s to get 9.90 Minmatar standings, and 8.90 Gallente. Had plenty of time to try different things. Not going to insist you do things the way i've found is best, but i would encourage you to experiment instead of just doing the same thing all the time.


>Warping out in a level 4 mission.

No.

Level 4s are **** easy. The only missions I've EVER had to warp out of were Angels Extravaganza missions where I spawned like 4 groups at a time out of sheer hubris. But even then, I had enough tank to clear them out (I just ran out of cap boosters and needed to restock, as I used cap boosters before I had my gistii--would have taken too many flux coils to be worth cap stability).

If you EVER need to warp out of level 4s, try each of these in order:

1) Read EVE-Survival and figure out the spawns. Don't shoot the spawn trigger until all the other ships are killed
2) Train up your skills
3) Find a better fit on battleclinic.

Almost every PVE fit on batleclinic is 3/4 damage mods, 1/2 tracking mods because the whole point of missions it isk; and you want to make as high isk/hour as possible. You are at no risk as long as you know what you're doing.

Also, it's common sense to pop frigates at long range, and use light drones to kill any that get under your guns. Only the frigates will try to scram you and they go down easily.

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Alara IonStorm
#24 - 2012-04-07 20:42:21 UTC
I punched that fit into my EFT and a message popped up telling me I should just unsub now. Shocked
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#25 - 2012-04-07 20:45:12 UTC
Lanasak wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Virgil Travis wrote:
Just thought I'd share this killmail with the residents of GD. Interesting to note that this was in the vicinity of an incursoin that's taking place in Sinq Laison. Another thing that made me laugh about this are the two Wyvern kills, each of which are half the ISK lost of the Vindi kill.

Wyvern 1, Wyvern 2


None of those fits remotely looks like an Incursion fit


Tell me more about these mythical incursion wyverns


Exactly why a nearby incursion was mentioned is beyond me. Pulin area has a few Federal Customs agents I recall ( couple level 3&4's )which would be a better comment.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#26 - 2012-04-07 21:00:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Aranakas wrote:
Level 4s are **** easy.


If angel extravaganza is the hardest you've seen, you haven't done many.

Quote:
Also, it's common sense to pop frigates at long range, and use light drones to kill any that get under your guns. Only the frigates will try to scram you and they go down easily.


And what about when an entire fleet is right on top on you after using a gate to warp in? Haven't had that happen yet? I think you'll enjoy it.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#27 - 2012-04-07 21:02:22 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lanasak wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Virgil Travis wrote:
Just thought I'd share this killmail with the residents of GD. Interesting to note that this was in the vicinity of an incursoin that's taking place in Sinq Laison. Another thing that made me laugh about this are the two Wyvern kills, each of which are half the ISK lost of the Vindi kill.

Wyvern 1, Wyvern 2


None of those fits remotely looks like an Incursion fit


Tell me more about these mythical incursion wyverns


Exactly why a nearby incursion was mentioned is beyond me. Pulin area has a few Federal Customs agents I recall ( couple level 3&4's )which would be a better comment.


It's worth noting that if someone X'd up with a local rep no buffer fit like that in incursion channels, there'd be at least three or four fleets asking him to join.

Not because he's a valuable fleet member, but because he's a valuable wreck to loot.

"Broadcast? I didn't see the Vindi broadcast. Did anyone else see the Vindi broadcast?"

Katrina Oniseki
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#28 - 2012-04-07 21:45:38 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lanasak wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Virgil Travis wrote:
Just thought I'd share this killmail with the residents of GD. Interesting to note that this was in the vicinity of an incursoin that's taking place in Sinq Laison. Another thing that made me laugh about this are the two Wyvern kills, each of which are half the ISK lost of the Vindi kill.

Wyvern 1, Wyvern 2


None of those fits remotely looks like an Incursion fit


Tell me more about these mythical incursion wyverns


Exactly why a nearby incursion was mentioned is beyond me. Pulin area has a few Federal Customs agents I recall ( couple level 3&4's )which would be a better comment.


Because it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't going to fly in incursions with that shiny. He probably was running 4s, it just so happened that there was an incursion in that area.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Serene Repose
#29 - 2012-04-07 21:52:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Uh...correct me if I'm wrong...module loss 19,776,516,397.00, ship loss 1,030,072,135.00.
How do you get 35 billion out of that?

OH! Add 12,733,629,795.00 for the loot? Uh....isn't that counting the value of the mods twice?

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#30 - 2012-04-07 21:58:00 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."


You should probably stop posting and go back to something simpler, like carebearing
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#31 - 2012-04-07 22:04:05 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Uh...correct me if I'm wrong...module loss 19,776,516,397.00, ship loss 1,030,072,135.00.
How do you get 35 billion out of that?

OH! Add 12,733,629,795.00 for the loot? Uh....isn't that counting the value of the mods twice?

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."


Only if you don't comprehend how to read a kill mail. Must be a new concept for you.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc.
Plucky Adventurers
#32 - 2012-04-07 22:06:49 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Uh...correct me if I'm wrong...module loss 19,776,516,397.00, ship loss 1,030,072,135.00.
How do you get 35 billion out of that?

OH! Add 12,733,629,795.00 for the loot? Uh....isn't that counting the value of the mods twice?

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."





must resist responding to idiocy
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#33 - 2012-04-07 22:39:09 UTC
Thank you Orphans - you just raised Eve's average IQ by quite a margin.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-04-07 22:55:32 UTC
This thread is amusingLol
illirdor
Upper Class Goat
#35 - 2012-04-07 23:06:01 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Level 4s are **** easy.


If angel extravaganza is the hardest you've seen, you haven't done many.

Quote:
Also, it's common sense to pop frigates at long range, and use light drones to kill any that get under your guns. Only the frigates will try to scram you and they go down easily.


And what about when an entire fleet is right on top on you after using a gate to warp in? Haven't had that happen yet? I think you'll enjoy it.


Shut up everybody knows L 4 are easy....

Soooo this is my sig.... 
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#36 - 2012-04-07 23:10:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Palovana
Also got podded with a full six-pack of Slave implants (the real ones, not low-grade), and 5 (percent) or 6 (percent) implants in the other four slots.

Of course the podding cost of 2.8B ISK isn't much compared to the 33.5B ISK ship kill.

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Alain Kinsella
#37 - 2012-04-08 00:50:43 UTC
Note the kill (including pod) are now marked as verified.

Culmen wrote:
Just want to point out one thing everybody seems to be missing.
The rigs are ALL FITTING RIGS.

One T2 rig to reduce CPU usage of guns, 2 rigs to improve PG.
None of which are needed if you got decent skills.

For 33 billion he could have bought a decent toon.


The pod's non-Slave implants were also fitting-related.

I've not flown Megathron-based ships (or used hybrid weapons) so won't comment on the fit. The prices are just plan nuts to me, but that's because I'm a spendthrift after my time in SL. Lol

"The Meta Game does not stop at the game. Ever."

Currently Retired / Semi-Casual (pending changes to RL concerns).
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-04-08 00:52:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Bane Necran wrote:
Kattshiro wrote:
Also why would you fit it like that?


PvE of some sort is my guess.


Quote:
Interesting to note that this was in the vicinity of an incursoin that's taking place in Sinq Laison.


Good guess :D

guess not reading the thread...

Im too used to doing lvl IVs in a crappy Drake... didnt think anyone would do them in a ship this expensive :p
Assumed incorrectly that if the fit was this expensive they must be running incursions

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-04-08 01:15:06 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Level 4s are **** easy.


If angel extravaganza is the hardest you've seen, you haven't done many.

Quote:
Also, it's common sense to pop frigates at long range, and use light drones to kill any that get under your guns. Only the frigates will try to scram you and they go down easily.


And what about when an entire fleet is right on top on you after using a gate to warp in? Haven't had that happen yet? I think you'll enjoy it.


*cough* Worlds Freaking Collide *cough*

And three part Gallente Minmatar faction mission. The name escapes me. But neither is easy solo. And you will lose your faction shiny if you disrespect the aggro. 
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-04-08 01:16:29 UTC
I like pot meet kettle, I think its Amarr... its got mines that do aoe damage in the mission when you pop them. Makes it fun when ninja looters would show up

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.