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EVE Mentat 1.2.15 - true trade tool
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Lex Fasces
New Eden Renegades
#41 - 2012-01-05 02:01:04 UTC
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#42 - 2012-01-05 11:25:05 UTC
Lex Fasces wrote:
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)



Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)

Woo! CSM XI!

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Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#43 - 2012-01-07 01:25:20 UTC
I need Corp Journals in this thing :D
One of the most epic tools that are out there! Good job Sir!

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Lex Fasces
New Eden Renegades
#44 - 2012-01-07 15:27:25 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Lex Fasces wrote:
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)



Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)



yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?
OneInchTerror
Small Hole Much Liquid
#45 - 2012-01-07 17:44:16 UTC
Lex Fasces wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Lex Fasces wrote:
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)



Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)



yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?



I was wondering exactly the same thing as you can bring up exactly what you paid and what you received in transactions so I assume it would be relatively easy to do the maths including skills (and maybe standings?) to get exact profits for each unit
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#46 - 2012-01-07 20:21:13 UTC
Lex Fasces wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Lex Fasces wrote:
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)



Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)



yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?



Not entirely automatic. But you can right click on the price in the transaction list and set price from there. so 2 clicks per item.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
OneInchTerror
Small Hole Much Liquid
#47 - 2012-01-07 22:35:16 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Lex Fasces wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Lex Fasces wrote:
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)



Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)



yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?



Not entirely automatic. But you can right click on the price in the transaction list and set price from there. so 2 clicks per item.


Problem with that is if you are in a highly competitive market, the price you pay can fluctuate by quite a lot so it taking that into account and taking the average of all bought and then the average of sold to give a total profit for an item
Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-01-10 12:41:23 UTC
First of all, sorry for my absence here last two weeks. I was on vacation and was taking participation in a war between SOLAR FLEET and Legion of xDEATHx.

Also I'm working on EVE Mentat 1.2.x.

So, let's try to answer all your questions...

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Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-01-10 12:46:12 UTC
Lex Fasces wrote:
is there a way i can get my order's price status type thing to clear before importing new market data from my cache?


atm what happens is i run the igb checker and mentat tells me i have to update so many prices etc.

then i run it again half hour later - and the tool tells me i need to update prices. the problem is that it is telling me stuff it already told me on the first run through - so now i have to go through and manually check eve price change to see if i need to make it or not.

is there a way to wipe the slate clean after i have changed all my prices?

Currently there is no way to do this.

I think It would be helpful to add "Fixed order" flag/option to suppress "overbid" status for concrete orders till next update.
I've added task.

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Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-01-10 12:51:06 UTC
Tirsotis Tazinas wrote:
Been using for a few days now. Love it - many thanks.

I manage the max number of market orders and has made doing so much quicker and more efficient.

Looking forward to an Assets tab.

Keep up the great work.

Thanks, I'm thinking about assets management too. Among with trade and delivery planners.

raukesh wrote:
I have 4 traders in one corp in different regions all using corp-orders to trade.

I use the IGB feature to scan and download the market data and then cache import in the market browser tab of evementat and I see it confirming it imports the data.

But when I do this I don't get the "overriden" highlight in the "corporate orders" even though I check that there is one overriden.

Can't figure out what I am doing wrong?

Any help appreciated

Which version of EVE Mentat do you use?

Excelsias X wrote:
Agreed, this thing is great.

Quick Q, and apologies if I missed the answer in the old forum thread or this one - is there a way to import eve-central or marketeer data?

Cheers,
X

These features are planned.

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Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-01-10 12:56:58 UTC
Invictra Atreides wrote:
I need Corp Journals in this thing :D
One of the most epic tools that are out there! Good job Sir!


Thanks! Corp journals are planned too.

Lex Fasces wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Lex Fasces wrote:
yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)



Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)



yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?

Currently self costs in not automated but use can configure transactions filter to display only buy orders for some period, then select all (or some) transactions, right mouse click and select "Set multiple self costs...". This option will calculate weighed average self cost (from selection of course) for each type from selection.

EVE Mentat - true trade tool
Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-01-10 13:03:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Thart
OneInchTerror wrote:

I was wondering exactly the same thing as you can bring up exactly what you paid and what you received in transactions so I assume it would be relatively easy to do the maths including skills (and maybe standings?) to get exact profits for each unit

I've investigated tax problem and have an idea how to implement it. So it's possible but requires time and inspiration.

Steve Ronuken wrote:

Not entirely automatic. But you can right click on the price in the transaction list and set price from there. so 2 clicks per item.

OneInchTerror wrote:
Problem with that is if you are in a highly competitive market, the price you pay can fluctuate by quite a lot so it taking that into account and taking the average of all bought and then the average of sold to give a total profit for an item

Please read my previous post. It will save a lot of your time.
Also take into account that this option sets weighted average costs. So you can easily manage your self costs even when good were bought from a few transactions with different prices.

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matarkhan
ConHugeCo
#53 - 2012-01-22 19:54:15 UTC
Just for the record, I have EVE Mentat working on my Mac with wine.

I'm just running the default wine from Macports, with:

winetricks dotnet20
winetricks dotnet30
winetricks gdiplus

I think that's all you need, I may have run winetricks for a few other things in the past, but I don't think so.

Many thanks for this awesome tool and all the work you put into it.

Please tell me you aren't planning to go to .NET 4.0 any time soon....
Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-22 23:05:54 UTC
matarkhan wrote:
Just for the record, I have EVE Mentat working on my Mac with wine.

I'm just running the default wine from Macports, with:

winetricks dotnet20
winetricks dotnet30
winetricks gdiplus

I think that's all you need, I may have run winetricks for a few other things in the past, but I don't think so.

Many thanks for this awesome tool and all the work you put into it.

Please tell me you aren't planning to go to .NET 4.0 any time soon....

Current development branch (EVE Mentat 1.2.x) is already under .NET 4.0.
You can obtain latest dev version via membership in EVE Mentat Google group if you need to perform some tests with .NET 4.0.

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-01-24 19:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Decibel
As of today, it seems that EVE is not using a point (".") anymore for ammounts of isk cents but a coma (","). When I try to copy-paste the recommended price from Mentat to my orders, this fails. It looks like Mentat tries to paste a "." into the EVE client even though in Mentat itself the ammounts are shown with comma's.

This effectively renders Mentat useless for fast order updating.

Ps, posted this on the Mentat site also.

Edit: dunno if this is a change done on purpose by CCP but I expect a lot of bitching about it so would not be surprised if they turn it back :P
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-01-24 19:49:16 UTC
Dirk Decibel wrote:


Edit: dunno if this is a change done on purpose by CCP but I expect a lot of bitching about it so would not be surprised if they turn it back :P

And to prevent future problems on this subject. Maybe it's a good idea to have an option in Mentat on how it pastes decimals into the EVE client?
6ie
The Kiwis
#57 - 2012-01-24 19:54:08 UTC
Works fine for me. Maybe its your locale setting in windows?
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-01-24 20:20:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Decibel
6ie wrote:
Works fine for me. Maybe its your locale setting in windows?
Using "United States (international)" as keyboard setting. Worked fine till today. In EVE online client the "." doesn't work anymore in market orders either.

What settings are you using if I may ask?

Edit: setting notation settings to "United States" seems to work as a workaround. Not really handy to change it around all the time but it will have to do for now. P
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#59 - 2012-01-24 23:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Using uk settings here and it works for me.


if you open up language and region settings (windows 7) then additional settings, there's a decimal separator option. don't know if it will make a difference.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-01-25 09:33:08 UTC
Dirk Decibel wrote:
As of today, it seems that EVE is not using a point (".") anymore for ammounts of isk cents but a coma (","). When I try to copy-paste the recommended price from Mentat to my orders, this fails. It looks like Mentat tries to paste a "." into the EVE client even though in Mentat itself the ammounts are shown with comma's.

This effectively renders Mentat useless for fast order updating.

Ps, posted this on the Mentat site also.

Edit: dunno if this is a change done on purpose by CCP but I expect a lot of bitching about it so would not be surprised if they turn it back :P

Thanks for report. I'll take a look tonight.

EVE Mentat - true trade tool