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Ruined by zydrine speculation... and my own stupidity
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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
#1 - 2012-04-05 15:25:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ank Parkor
I just want to share this humiliation and have some feedbacks on how I could avoid this in the future Smile

Long story short: made a little mistake while modifying an order for Zydrine, and bought a shitload of units at 14219,8 ISK instead of 1421,98.
Good point is that they were some happy traders in Amarr yesterday evening.
Bad point is that I lost all my wallet and that I have to start again. But with much more SP than 1 year ago Smile

So:
1) To all the guys who made profits on my stupidity: I have your names and will and come see you when you sleep in your quarters
2) Could some people tell me that it has already happened to them so I feel less dumb?
3) It is possible to reset the "confirm order" window in the eve settings Blink

PS: Selling Zydrine at 15.000 ISK/u, convo me!

[u]Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.[/u]

Bring justice to EVE: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1171333
Ch3244
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-05 15:27:46 UTC
Ank Parkor wrote:

2) Could some people tell me that it has already happened to them so I feel less dumb?

no

reset windows in settings
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#3 - 2012-04-05 15:29:14 UTC
Talk about owned

I'll give you a tip for avoiding that in the future if you give me the zydrine you bought. Lol

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Kneebone
K-H Light Industries
#4 - 2012-04-05 15:31:37 UTC
There was a post about someone raging in a similar way a few days ago. He set a super low sell order so people got product at a highly reduced rate. Kind of the same but exactly opposite.

And I once bought an implant and missed a trailing 0, fortunatly it was cheap :)
Jake Andarius
Andarius Trading Corp.
#5 - 2012-04-05 15:36:49 UTC
Everyone wants to know how much you lost. Sad

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Antonios Tiberius
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-05 15:45:09 UTC
This is classic Big smile
Claire Voyant
#7 - 2012-04-05 15:55:02 UTC
Ank Parkor wrote:
2) Could some people tell me that it has already happened to them so I feel less dumb?

Happens all the time, but probably not to the extent that it wipes out peoples' wallets.
They actually changed something in the UI in a patch a few weeks ago that made this worse. Give us more info and maybe we can figure out what went wrong with you. Were you making a new buy order or were you modifying an existing order?

One important rule in the past has been "tab is your friend" which means to hit tab after entering a number instead of enter. Tab is supposed to (or at least used to) update the order window so things like commas (for thousands and millions) were inserted, the total amount of the order, the fees and taxes, and the % above or below average market prices were updated. Now there is often a delay between hitting tab and the window update, but it is still certainly good advice to hit tab and make sure the order window updates and is displaying the information you expect to see.

Another trick is to use smaller order sizes so you don't get royally screwed when you make a mistake. One thing I usually do when selling is to sell only 10% or 1% of a stack at a time by deleting the rightmost one or two digits of the quantity. Of course when I forget to do this I usually end up eating a huge pile of broker's fees but at least there isn't some guy on the other side of the transaction showing screenshots with my name on it making me look like an ass.
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-05 16:27:14 UTC
Proof that market UI is a JOKE and needs updating by CCP, functionality and performance wise.
Brock Nelson
#9 - 2012-04-05 16:36:03 UTC
Erm...a warning window should've appeared asking if you really want to setup a buy order with X% above the market price.

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Kalipoli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-05 16:38:55 UTC
#1: Do Not Place Orders While Intoxicated

#2: Do Not Place Orders Whilst on a Late Night EVE Bender.

#3: Learn The Importance of Double Checking Which Input Field Your Number Went Into.

#4: Take Into Account The Fact That The Most Amazing Game Created To Date Sucks. It Is a Son of a *****. The EVE Universe is Unrelenting, Harsh, Painful, This is EVE. It Sucks. Accept it and Double Check Yourself, Move on and Keep Playing.

P.s. buying 10 T2 Ships at 10% their sell price and half what your buy order is set at because someone left out a zero, felt like i won the lottery.
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-04-05 17:04:22 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Erm...a warning window should've appeared asking if you really want to setup a buy order with X% above the market price.

Even that doesn't stop me from making a stupid mistake every now and then. Lol

Never wiped out my wallet though, maybe I should start transfering some isk into a corp wallet division as a safeguard....
Adunh Slavy
#12 - 2012-04-05 17:16:28 UTC
Kneebone wrote:
There was a post about someone raging in a similar way a few days ago. He set a super low sell order so people got product at a highly reduced rate. Kind of the same but exactly opposite.

And I once bought an implant and missed a trailing 0, fortunatly it was cheap :)



That was me! Only lost 50 mil so not a big deal. First time I ever made the "error". It's lazy code and poor bullet proofing at the logic layer. Allowing this type of transaction in real world code gets you fired.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Whiteknight03
Trilon Industries and Exploration
#13 - 2012-04-05 17:42:40 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Kneebone wrote:
There was a post about someone raging in a similar way a few days ago. He set a super low sell order so people got product at a highly reduced rate. Kind of the same but exactly opposite.

And I once bought an implant and missed a trailing 0, fortunatly it was cheap :)



That was me! Only lost 50 mil so not a big deal. First time I ever made the "error". It's lazy code and poor bullet proofing at the logic layer. Allowing this type of transaction in real world code gets you fired.


Yes, it gets the user fired. How many warning messages would you like a coder to add?
Irisa Selenia
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-04-05 17:45:19 UTC
That's why you need to keep the bulk of your isk in a corp wallet or banking alt.
Adunh Slavy
#15 - 2012-04-05 17:45:47 UTC
Whiteknight03 wrote:

Yes, it gets the user fired. How many warning messages would you like a coder to add?



None, this is a issue at the transaction layer, where it would ultimately have to be checked anyway. Oh, and you can shove your "eve is hard" BS someplace comfy. There's no excuse for lazy crappy code.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-05 17:50:02 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Whiteknight03 wrote:

Yes, it gets the user fired. How many warning messages would you like a coder to add?



None, this is a issue at the transaction layer, where it would ultimately have to be checked anyway. Oh, and you can shove your "eve is hard" BS someplace comfy. There's no excuse for lazy crappy code.


Agreed, no excuse for ****** interface.

It doesn't even display dots/commas for multi digit numbers unless we force it to. What the ****.
Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-04-05 17:54:18 UTC
Cheer up, you could have been one of these poor saps:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/06/citigroup-trading-error-f_n_566623.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10394551/ns/business-world_business/t/botched-stock-trade-costs-japan-firm-m/

A site dedicated to this sort of thing it seems:
http://wallstfolly.typepad.com/wallstfolly/trade_errors/

I googled "trade error costs millions"

At least your money was pretend.

Drox
flakeys
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-04-05 17:55:12 UTC
Ank Parkor wrote:
I just want to share this humiliation and have some feedbacks on how I could avoid this in the future Smile

Long story short: made a little mistake while modifying an order for Zydrine, and bought a shitload of units at 14219,8 ISK instead of 1421,98.
!



Happened to me loads of times.Last time i had an oopsiedaysie like that i modified a sell order with a 2 digits short , it costed me 3B.Just dust offf and grind back in there mate , live and learn.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Vistilantus
Hexsploits
#19 - 2012-04-05 18:06:37 UTC
A long time ago in a galaxy just outside the station, i had a region wide buy order for Oxygen Isotopes when they were not long created, 10m units at about 15% lower than market price (at the time, i think it was 950isk/unit on market).

Unfortunately, someone made a boo boo and sold me 10m units at 1 isk per unit, when i convoed the guy a while later, he offered to buy them back at 800isk / unit as he had a contract willing to pay 1200 / unit for the whole lot delivered ^_^

I enjoyed that day.....
mickydees
PaP KG
#20 - 2012-04-05 18:08:44 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Kneebone wrote:
There was a post about someone raging in a similar way a few days ago. He set a super low sell order so people got product at a highly reduced rate. Kind of the same but exactly opposite.

And I once bought an implant and missed a trailing 0, fortunatly it was cheap :)



That was me! Only lost 50 mil so not a big deal. First time I ever made the "error". It's lazy code and poor bullet proofing at the logic layer. Allowing this type of transaction in real world code gets you fired.



50m lost and you felt it worthy of making a topic here?
GTFO
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