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VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-04-06 14:53:00 UTC
in order: false paradox, it wasn't a campaign it was an individual, they posted the pictures themselves, it was more her weight than looks, mittani retired!, we do mock your pictures

i do agree that goons are pretty ugly too though!
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#42 - 2012-04-06 14:56:54 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
i do agree that goons are pretty ugly too though!


Well there you go. The thread wasn't a complete waste.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-04-06 15:01:16 UTC
who's trolling now? mods?
Lanasak
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-04-06 15:23:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lanasak
VCBee 180 wrote:
blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861&page=2#49

hurr

(skip down to post #49 since the anchor link doesn't work, :ccp:)
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#45 - 2012-04-06 16:53:14 UTC
Lanasak wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861&page=2#49

hurr

(skip down to post #49 since the anchor link doesn't work, :ccp:)



Only goons would want to link examples of themselves getting utterly owned on the forums.

:you guys: Cool

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-04-06 16:56:00 UTC
Lanasak wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861&page=2#49

hurr

(skip down to post #49 since the anchor link doesn't work, :ccp:)


doh

oh wow i don't think i was subscribed when that one was posted
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-04-06 16:57:13 UTC
And that's one properly derailed thread, :highbros: we did it.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-04-06 16:57:29 UTC  |  Edited by: VCBee 180
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lanasak wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861&page=2#49

hurr

(skip down to post #49 since the anchor link doesn't work, :ccp:)



Only goons would want to link examples of themselves getting utterly owned on the forums.

:you guys: Cool


bad poster!!!!! bad

e: if there's one thing to take from the archives, it's that calling jade out for RPing a space prostitute is timeless
Uronksur Suth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-04-06 22:01:31 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
[quote=VCBee 180]Or indeed as "creepy" as putting an eve enemies rl picture on a goonwiki where he is described as being a child sex offender.


Um, isn't that libel?
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#50 - 2012-04-07 00:09:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Uronksur Suth wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
[quote=VCBee 180]Or indeed as "creepy" as putting an eve enemies rl picture on a goonwiki where he is described as being a child sex offender.


Um, isn't that libel?


Yeah good luck trying to find a lawyer prepared to take the case transatlantic against one of a thousand random goons operating through dodgy/obscure hosting agreements though. Though it would be nice to give these guys a figurative kick-in-the-teeth the reality is doomed to frustration.

+ of course "libel" is something that only happens to goons rather than done by them. Its "libellous" (apparently) to refer to Gianturco as a "cyberbully" but just harmless joking when labelling a goonswarm enemy a sex offender. Go figure.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2012-04-07 04:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Jade Constantine wrote:

+ of course "libel" is something that only happens too goons rather than done to them. Its "libellous" (apparently) to refer to Gianturco as a "cyberbully" but just harmless joking when labelling a goonswarm enemy a sex offender. Go figure.


I don't think any goon has called that label Libel. We've mostly be fapping on the fact that's its an incorrect label. DrunkenAsshole is far more accurate in Mitten's case. Many of the "gaming media" have written retractions to that effect even, including the blog post that is often cited as having started all those shenanigans.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#52 - 2012-04-07 05:24:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
VCBee 180 wrote:
Lanasak wrote:
[stuff that made little Lyrra grin]


blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply


^^The sense of humour is weak in this one.^^

Oh, and post on your main, you sanctimonious coward.

Ni.
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Aggressive Feeding
#53 - 2012-04-07 08:46:48 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lanasak wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861&page=2#49

hurr

(skip down to post #49 since the anchor link doesn't work, :ccp:)



Only goons would want to link examples of themselves getting utterly owned on the forums.

:you guys: Cool


bad poster!!!!! bad

e: if there's one thing to take from the archives, it's that calling jade out for RPing a space prostitute is timeless

And True
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Aggressive Feeding
#54 - 2012-04-07 08:50:41 UTC
Jade and can you pls tell us what your csm 1 really achieved expect getting elected and getting free trip to the Iceland?
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-04-07 09:11:20 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Lyrrashae wrote:


^^The sense of humour is weak in this one.^^

Oh, and post on your main, you sanctimonious coward.


my main is forum banned for threatening to kill myself if mittani was made to resign :(

a VCBee character is as good as a goonswarm ticker so w/e

*snip* Please keep it civil. Spitfire
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#56 - 2012-04-07 09:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
VCBee 180 wrote:
[tripe]

e: your alliance is a piece of **** btw


Are.
You.
*******.
Serious.

Really? Really?

0/10 if troll, -10/10 if serious.

E:

Is that truly all you've got? My God, you're pathetic even by the standards of the dregs of the Internet known as goons. Stop taking Internet Spaceships(TM) so seriously, honey: See, for those of us who have friends and lives away from the computer, what one braying piece of Internet-garbage thinks of my pixel-spaceships pixel-space guild/corp/thingy really just...isn't overly relevant.

Ni.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-04-07 10:02:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Marksalot
Jade Constantine wrote:
Uronksur Suth wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
Or indeed as "creepy" as putting an eve enemies rl picture on a goonwiki where he is described as being a child sex offender.


Um, isn't that libel?


Yeah good luck trying to find a lawyer prepared to take the case transatlantic against one of a thousand random goons operating through dodgy/obscure hosting agreements though. Though it would be nice to give these guys a figurative kick-in-the-teeth the reality is doomed to frustration.

+ of course "libel" is something that only happens to goons rather than done by them. Its "libellous" (apparently) to refer to Gianturco as a "cyberbully" but just harmless joking when labelling a goonswarm enemy a sex offender. Go figure.


So how long are you going to continue to be mad at a few thousand dudes because of what one (a few?) of them did?



edit:

Lyrrashae wrote:


Are.
You.
*******.
Serious.

Really? Really?

0/10 if troll, -10/10 if serious.

E:

Is that truly all you've got? My God, you're pathetic even by the standards of the dregs of the Internet known as goons. Stop taking Internet Spaceships(TM) so seriously, honey: See, for those of us who have friends and lives away from the computer, what one braying piece of Internet-garbage thinks of my pixel-spaceships pixel-space guild/corp/thingy really just...isn't overly relevant.


God they're adorable sometimes.
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Aggressive Feeding
#58 - 2012-04-07 10:22:24 UTC  |  Edited by: PleaseDONTblow Myship
Lyrrashae wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
[tripe]

e: your alliance is a piece of **** btw


Are.
You.
*******.
Serious.

Really? Really?

0/10 if troll, -10/10 if serious.

E:

Is that truly all you've got? My God, you're pathetic even by the standards of the dregs of the Internet known as goons. Stop taking Internet Spaceships(TM) so seriously, honey: See, for those of us who have friends and lives away from the computer, what one braying piece of Internet-garbage thinks of my pixel-spaceships pixel-space guild/corp/thingy really just...isn't overly relevant.


Lol,internet spaceship serious bussines nerd telling GS member to be not so serious about spaceships...

Pubbies still manage to surprise and make me laugh...

Edit:Andyour alliance Is terribad,and i as member of TEST recognize terribad alliance...
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-04-07 16:35:05 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
VCBee 180 wrote:
[tripe]

e: your alliance is a piece of **** btw


Are.
You.
*******.
Serious.

Really? Really?

0/10 if troll, -10/10 if serious.

E:

Is that truly all you've got? My God, you're pathetic even by the standards of the dregs of the Internet known as goons. Stop taking Internet Spaceships(TM) so seriously, honey: See, for those of us who have friends and lives away from the computer, what one braying piece of Internet-garbage thinks of my pixel-spaceships pixel-space guild/corp/thingy really just...isn't overly relevant.


rack 'em
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#60 - 2012-04-07 17:11:22 UTC
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
Jade and can you pls tell us what your csm 1 really achieved expect getting elected and getting free trip to the Iceland?


Well CSM 1 being bad is a common myth told by the Goon leadership to its pawns. When (from the goon's perspective) what was "bad" is you didn't win.

CSM1 was pretty successful for CCP and the game at large. Extremely good press coverage, media relations. It worked well for me in the workplace too ironically - people were pretty impressed at my run as the first ever democratically elected chair of a massively multiplayer online game.

BBC taking democracy to the stars

New York Times on Virtual Democracy

Massively spotlight CSM1

Ten ton hammer on the process

And dozens more like these.

At least two members of CSM1 would go on to work for CCP. One went on to become a leading figure on the followup CSM2. We oversaw the successful implementation of PLEX into Eve online which has helped hundreds of thousands of players from poorer countries in the world to play the game despite the economic problems of their host countries.

It is a matter of public record the various gameplay improvements we advocated for Eve Online and I'm quite proud of the issues I advocated personally (such of which will probably surprise you when you tear your eyes from goonswarm propaganda and go look up the facts as they happened

And when my term was over I gave the final address at fanfest without bringing myself, the csm, or CCP and the wider player base into disrepute. I understand then as I do now that the role of CSM chair is to represent the game as an ambassador to the wider gaming media and show off the things that make Eve great (rather than wallowing in petty cyber bullying and mean spirited drunken nonsense.).

In many ways I think it is the degree to which the facts of CSM1's success are self-evident and undeniable that have made goon high command so rapidly addicted to smear attempts and making up nonsense about it ever since. It really stings that the CSM chaired by Jade Constantine, roleplayer and leader of a small alliance was a roaring success, while the CSM chaired by goonswarm's favourite son was a disappointing fiasco that ended in scandal and universal condemnation by anyone who is not a goon.

All the goonswarm can take away from CSM6 really are humiliating headlines like these.

Cyber bullying for applause

Goonswarm's attempt to cyber-bully massively

Investigation over mocking suicidal player

Harrassment mars Eves fanfest

And so on.

Take off the goonswarm blinkers and breath the fresh clean air outside the SA basement for a moment and see how the rest of the players and gaming media see you.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom