EVE General Discussion

I'm pretty sure that real $$ is used more often than isk for "nefarious activities".

Ethically, by purchasing from RMT, you're providing a person from a third world country a comfortable standard of living. That's far more ethical than providing a person from a first world country with an even more comfortable standard of living.

But either way, it's more ethical to donate money to charity, so from an ethical point of view, any player that would buy PLEX should instead not buy PLEX and donate to starving children.

Not from you specifically, but from many posters, I'm seeing a lot of double-think, where "RMT is bad, PLEX is good!" even though they are essentially the exact same thing.

Except that this would not happen, because CCP controls the PLEX market. The only legal way to buy PLEX for RL currency is through CCP, and the only way that PLEX is created is by CCP. So, if CCP saw a sharp spike in PLEX purchasing, be it from one person or many, they would freeze the sale of PLEX to prevent such a crash in the market. And again, this is where PLEX is different than RMT through a third party.

Given the size of the PLEX market (which may be smaller than you imagine), it would not have to be a huge spike in PLEX sales to sound the alarm at CCP. Buying a max of 28 per transaction, there's no way you could ever get near the hypothetical 50,000 PLEX (one million US dollars worth - sans discounting) before CCP simply shut off the valve.

Excuse me, but did he really just try to use an example of someone buying a million $ worth of ISK as proof that his pet theory is correct,... with a straight face?


I'd say that pretty much puts a fork in this ridiculous exercise in mental masturbation.

Your billionaire gamer would have won exactly... nothing. Well, except a lot of assets to lose, much to the delight of the rest of the EVE community.

Is he going to fly all those ships himself?
How long do you think it will take before he loses it all, or someone scams him out of it and shuts down his "alliance"?
How loudly will EVE players laugh when he proudly proclaims that he "won" EVE?
How quickly will the news get leaked to the press, and just how foolish will they make him look in the eyes of the general gaming community?
How many more subscriptions do you think CCP would get in the process?
How many hours do you think it will take CCP to react and balance the market again, in the unlikely event that the market can't self correct?
Do you feel silly yet?

By the way, earlier when you said

you missed the point by a large margin.

Poker is one of those games that you can throw as much money at as you like, but it will never "buy" you a win. Luck and skill are the only things that can do that, no matter how much money you throw at it (and usually lose). However, you are certainly encouraged to try.

EVE operates on a similar principal.

You'll never run the other players out of money, or ISK, as all it takes is a little time and/or a little teamwork to undo whatever it is you think you've won by spending your bundle.

However, any time you'd like to put this to a practical test, feel free.

I'm selling PLEX to play the game the way I want to, which is not grinding ISK...

And my way to play EVE couldn't be farther away from what the average player would call "winning"...


Also I'm making a lot of players happy who don't have to pay real money to play...


A service to the EVE community, I'd say...

But its not, that isk wasnt generated out fo nowhere, it was worked for by the people who bought it.
no different then if you didnt do anything for a month, and then sold a battleship you no longer want to a player who HAS been grinding isk all month.

its a simple commodity to facilitate the transfer of isk, in which BOTH parties gain what they woulod otherwise be denied, seller-party gains isk they wouldnt otherwise ahev the time to get, buyer-party gains another month of gametime they otherwise couldnt afford.

If PLEX are such an anathema to EVE, it seems strange that other games are following the lead and adopting similar strategies to combat RMT. I think those arguing against GTC/PLEX are in the minority.

But the botters and RMTers aren't all banned.

PLEX cannot be P2W for the simple reason of being market controlled, AND a item ingame. (IE destructable)

Buying your PLEX guarentees you nothing. First you have to sell it ingame, which is not guarenteed, and the amount you get is anywhere between 0.00 isk and infinite isk.

P2W guarentees you an advantage over a non paying player.

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