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Botter tears after Sreegs and Stillman issue eviction notices.
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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#41 - 2012-04-04 13:19:04 UTC
malaire wrote:
Sentinel Smith wrote:
Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet.

I'm not sure if that is intentional or not.

I've tried to station trade few times with players who had negative wallet - once it failed but on other occasions it has worked. (I havn't tried this recently so I don't know how it works currently.)

EDIT: And the reason for those trades: They had bought PLEX from CCP to get rid of negative wallet, but could not sell PLEX on market - so they wanted to station-trade the PLEX.


Sounds like a recipe for a potential trade scam. Twisted

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#42 - 2012-04-04 13:51:55 UTC
not sure whats more delicous? bot tears or innocent victims tears. I say bot tears for the quality of tears.

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Ugly Eric
Fistful of Finns
#43 - 2012-04-04 13:58:06 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.


This!

I myself have been funding my 0.0 PvP life for quite a long time with buying plexes. I am terrible at eve PvE, beacause it really is boring as hell. Same problem with oh'so many other MMO's.

I also suck at PvP so much, I dont get my iskies from there.

I only wish, some day the PvE content of EVE would be so interesting, that I actually could be arsed to do it. At this time having 4 accounts and 7 characters bound to pvp is relly heavy for my RL wallet :p

And buying those plexes from CCP ofc.
Steel Wraith
#44 - 2012-04-04 14:10:39 UTC
I love the continued shock at having their accounts "that weren't even botting" also banned. One of them even renamed Eve Pilot to Notepad. I can't believe that didn't work! Roll
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#45 - 2012-04-04 14:35:45 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
lol i love this one.
Botting is over and now i have no gameplay?

Quote:
even though I have been with EVE since 1994...




I find this impressive, he must have been in reynirs and hilmars bedrooms when they where planning everything.

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Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#46 - 2012-04-04 14:43:11 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
lol i love this one.
Botting is over and now i have no gameplay?

Quote:
even though I have been with EVE since 1994...




I find this impressive, he must have been in reynirs and hilmars bedrooms when they where planning everything.


LOL

I mean the PVE in eve isn't THAT bad. It just has to be done in groups. Solo PVE is boring as hell but doing missions or incursions with a bunch of corp mates on comms is generally entertaining since it distracts you from the tedium of what your doing.

Maybe PVE will get a workover this winter.
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-04-04 14:44:11 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.


So is the gameplay of WoW, Guild Wars, and every MMO out there. All this means is that whenever the bots get persistent, we get persistent in killing them. At least here in Eve Online we get to kill our targets without needing their consent.
At least in EVE, you *can* kill them.

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#48 - 2012-04-04 14:48:12 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
lol i love this one.
Botting is over and now i have no gameplay?

Quote:
Now, without botting I have no other way to make isk and get plexes for all accounts even for my main.


Someone should suggest he try sitting at the computer and actually playing the game himself.

If all you're doing is botting, and using botting income to fund more bots, then the only one who really stops playing the game is the bots, not the players who turn them on in the morning,

Good riddance to bad trash. And nice work, CCP. Keep the heads rolling and i may start mining again.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-04-04 14:49:15 UTC
Danfen Fenix wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
Kiandoshia wrote:
I am not really impressed.. Going by these poasts, those are not permanent bans =/


You missed the bit where the botters log back in to wallets with iskies in the negative billions. Oh and have you ever tried to SELL something when your wallet is empty? The game code deducts the broker fee/taxes FIRST before crediting your account. So if you have zero isk and sell that 10M isk item, you won't be able to sell it because you can't afford the taxes/fees. Now imagine if you have -18 billion...


So they're actually shut out from mining ?

Lmao Lol

Well, there are probably legitimate ways to mine and grind your way up out of the hole* - but none of them look like anything even remotely resembling fun.

In real effect, the accounts are dead unless they PLEX like mad on an Alt account


*(Off the top of my head: Mine in an Alt- fleet, alts collect/refine/sell ore, gift back part of the proceeds. Definately sub-optimal)

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-04-04 15:20:45 UTC
This is good news indeed.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#51 - 2012-04-04 15:20:48 UTC
This topic make me smile.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Spy 21
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-04-04 15:24:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Spy 21
Good work to CCP.

The mentality of these guys would be classified as insane if it weren't the same old entitlement mentality that seems to be prevalent everywhere these days. Makes me wanna throw up all over their ugly faces hehehahahahhaha...

So what's up with only the 2 week ban... seems to me with as difficult as it appears to catch these losers the least would be a permanent ban for life... and If I could think of something more severe that would be legal, I would suggest that also.

CCP does know that when these turds come back and get their characters unscrewed they will simply go back to the same activity right?

S

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-04-04 15:40:39 UTC
Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#54 - 2012-04-04 15:47:13 UTC
Given that many of the botters will have been using their ISK to buy PLEX to fund their botting accounts, it will be interesting to see the effect that this has on PLEX prices.

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-04-04 15:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Quote:
desi0103a: No you are not allone i lost at this moment all my 11 acc that are not funny now i think the bot is not safe ;(


no you arent safe

Ravan Hekki wrote:
Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears.


should be a sig lol

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Rashmika Clavain
Revelation Space
#56 - 2012-04-04 15:52:03 UTC
Potamus Jenkins wrote:
Quote:
I don't have a public IP so it's kinda weird they banned me 2 accounts.



i dont think he has a solid understanding of the interwebz


Hahah this. I don't have a public IP on a public network.

Uhuh!
Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-04-04 16:10:13 UTC
Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following...

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.



Point has been made a thousand times in other threads. Two things to consider.

1) The fact that you have to grind is part what makes taking other peoples stuff so rewarding. If pve was the **** in this game, then who would really case about inflicting losses?

2) Most important, it wouldn't matter if the game had the most engaging awesome PvE in all of gaming history, people would bot it. Lots of reasons but the result would be the same. Look at every other multiplayer game on a pc, any FPS, RTS, MMO. They all having botting problems. Ppl like to cheat =P

I has all the eve inactivity
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#58 - 2012-04-04 16:15:02 UTC
Karl Planck wrote:
Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following...

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.



Point has been made a thousand times in other threads.


Another thing to consider is that the big reason mining has such a poor isk/hour ratio is because of the botters.

To hear them saying the reason they have to bot is because of problems they themselves created is amusing, to say the least.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Nalia White
Tencus
#59 - 2012-04-04 16:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalia White
good thread. my favourite:

Quote:
Gregar: I have yet to be banned and have been using the BOT on 2 accounts - I think I might have got lucky though as I stopped playing for about a month when everyone was getting banned and I had a day off when the next lot of people started getting banned... *insert happy smiley here*

EDIT - Both accounts just got banned..


XD

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#60 - 2012-04-04 16:26:35 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Karl Planck wrote:
Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following...

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.



Point has been made a thousand times in other threads.


Another thing to consider is that the big reason mining has such a poor isk/hour ratio is because of the botters.

To hear them saying the reason they have to bot is because of problems they themselves created is amusing, to say the least.



I have noticed that simple modules, basic crap dropped by rats, actually have normal prices. Usually the only way to get ISK from them was to reprocess, like everything you try to sell is 1000 percent below regional average. Now a module that is worth say 20000 ISK actually sells for that give or take a few thousands.

All we need is a scarlet letter program to put the cherry on the cake.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!