EVE General Discussion

I'm thinking all NPC corps in EVE except the starter corps should have wars with other corps in EVE, and players in one NPC corp could shoot war targets from another hostile NPC corp freely in empire space. And you should probably have a limit to how long you can sit in the starter corp.

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I am confirming that I was correct in my initial assumptions. My evidence is the large number of people of whom my words have struck a nerve, and who wish to make sure that I and any others who agree with me are silenced//made to see the light of reason//not listened to by CCP/CSM.

It is sad that instead of corps who want wars taunting others into them, or going into low / null sec for action. They prefer to batter and beat the ones who don't, into it. Consider for a second that some people don't want to pvp. Maybe they enjoy socializing, mining, or shooting npcs for lewtz. Then another corp comes along and puts them into a war. One which said corp can't fight off. They are all miners after all . So they devise a "horrible" "dastardly" plan! They make their corp un-wardecable...

So let me ask you a question for your sought after solution. Why is it so hard for one pvp corp to simply war another? There is plenty of kids in the sandbox to throw sand. So really who does the problem sit with?

For the people in NPC corporations. Who cares. They are taxed at a fixed rate no matter what. You don't ever see imperial navy academy holding sov in null sec. And when it comes to everything else, well they are the same as any other player. It isn't like 80% of eve is in npc corps anyways. Go take some sov and fight holding it if you lack pvp.

Don't get me wrong, I think that people who prey on the weak in highsec are losers and their tactics should not be supported. I think war costs should be continually revisited and adjusted until there are no longer a ridiculous number of baseless and unused wardecs floating around everywhere--till the average corp who keeps quiet generally isn't in a war. But I also think that bot miners shouldn't be able to mine so freely.

Making it possible yet difficult and expensive to declare war on them will not stop them entirely but it will make it far more difficult for them to operate gigantic hulk fleets, because that's just asking for easy killings.

Yeah, perfect plan you got there. Make honest players pay for the privilege of helping the game by destroying bots. Meanwhile, players who contribute nothing to the game's content are rewarded with extra protections against unwanted player interaction.

Do you know what will happen if wars become more expensive than suicide-ganking? They won't be utilized anymore, that's what. Why pay CONCORD a billion, when a few dozen T1-fit Thrashers accomplish the same thing? The only thing that vastly increased war fees will do is marginalize the ability of smaller entities to engage in PvP.

I think you know exactly what type of honesty I'm talking about.

Even if people were declaring wars to help fight bots. NO ONE will ever get them all. So long as there are buyers they will keep selling. And honestly this isn't about botting or stopping botters. It is about an often visited game mechanic.

If people dont want to play you're way why should they be penalised for it.

And lets be honest the balance of power would be in your favour or you would not be asking for it.


Its like the majority of posters who want a change. the change always favours them.


If you want to grief new players and players that dont have much pvp SP then go and hang out in the newb systems and drop cans like everyone else does.


TL:DR you want more easy targets for your killboard

Sounds like Butthurt (Quafe scented soothing ointment availble in CCP store) about dudes who don't want to risk losing a ship to CONCORD or that in the pecking order of EVE there is someone out there that is always better then you but this guy (Quoted) doesn't even try to challenge himself because an NPC Corp player in highsec is just so much easier to kill. Really, its not that ******* hard to understand....PVE ship = loser with that active tank = YOU WIN EVERYTIME! So, its like you are spouting some ego arousing speech to get your mental erection up because in reality you are fighting a dude fit to fight NPC which is like YOU THA DUDE fitting to fight an NPC with a PC name. You are fighting a nobody, unable to fight back....be proud of yourself broski! You are Awesome!

If you want the right to exist, then by all rights uninstall EVE, get out there and start your own right to exist in the real world! Start your own kingdom, cause it should be ok in the real world just as much as it is in a video game. Or do you not really care that Goverment > Local Goverment > City municipality > You (<-- HAHA Look at that! In the real world, most of humanity are like NPC corp dudes! Bottom of the shithole) Everytime some guy tries to fight something for change, his goverment brands him a wierdo and slaps him with charges of malcontent. Hmm...not much different then every other forum warrior branding NPC corp dudes as destroyers of EVE.

Here is my last bit of Sage Pro-tip: Get over youself and just shoot them. Nothing prevents you out right but your unwillingness to just lose your own assets to CONCORD. In that same regard, NPC Corps are still targets of oppertunity but they can and will still lose their own assets + isk to an NPC enitity or another Player.

And just WHERE is this in the Documentation ??????

Sandboxes have no will or compulsion to force ANY actions or behavior.

YOU are in the wrong game.

Are you on drugs? Nobody is going to sit in an NPC corp unless they are broke anyway. They wouldn't want to pay NPC tax and they don't want to deal with the problems with managing people in a NPC corp. Try going after people with some ISK. If your targets are dropping to NPC corps you are choosing some sad little opponents.