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Ship balancing chart: What CCP really thinks about each ship

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-03 03:57:44 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAegix
Hey everybody,
In the fanfest ship balancing presentation, there was a chart shown with all the T1/T2/T3/Faction ships, colour-coded according to how CCP sees them.
Red = Broken
Yellow = Semi-broken
Green = Working as intended

Unfortunately, the names of the ships were kept hidden.
Fortunately, the structure was kept intact, allowing me to discern all of the hidden ships!

All races (hidden): http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9098/baseao.png
Revealed Amarr chart: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7751/amarr.png
EDIT: Ignore the orange text about industrial ships, I accidentally misread the other charts Oops

Now then, I don't have enough time to do a fancy reveal of all the races, but the structure remains the same.
You should be able to figure out the other races for yourself!

Here are some very quick insights, from the other races:
Tengu: Working as intended
Proteus: Broken
Loki: Semi-broken
All Black Ops ships: Broken
Falcon: Semi-broken
All tier-1 battlecruisers: Semi-broken

So, what do you think about CCP's opinion of the current ship balance? It's all subject to change, so share your thoughts.
Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
#2 - 2012-04-03 04:14:44 UTC
Wondered why they needed a panel to tell everyone what they already knew.
JamesCLK
#3 - 2012-04-03 04:18:05 UTC
So apparently the Merlin is broken but the-

/suddenly Kestrels, hundreds of them.

-- -.-- / -.-. .-.. --- -. . / .. ... / - --- --- / . -..- .--. . -. ... .. ...- . / - --- / ..- -. -.. --- -.-. -.- / ... - --- .--. / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / ... . -. -.. / .... . .-.. .--. / ... - --- .--.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-04-03 04:20:48 UTC
JamesCLK wrote:
So apparently the Merlin is broken but the-

/suddenly Kestrels, hundreds of them.


..... Because of Kestrel .. I remember that meme. Big smile

Sorry for spam*
Koban Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-03 05:01:16 UTC
It's very funny that Naglfar is marked as OK.

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Doggy Dogwoofwoof
New Eden Corporation 98713347
Brotherhood of Spacers
#6 - 2012-04-03 05:07:37 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
[quote=JamesCLK]

Sorry for spam*


Spam was made... BECAUSE OF KESTREL.
Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#7 - 2012-04-03 05:10:28 UTC
I don't quite understand how they missed the Nid and Chimera, they really aren't even close to equal.
Alain Kinsella
#8 - 2012-04-03 05:41:47 UTC
I don't see the issue with the normal Omen. At low skills you can run a 4-turret config, then at higher skills graduate to a 5-turret setup (5 high-end Beams can be tricky IIRC). I grew into that ship rather nicely actually.

Same with the Sigil. Smaller and agile, a nice step down from an Impel if you're just doing casual shuffling things about (like a bunch of P1s from a planet). And it was free if you did the career tutorials. What's not to like?

Maller and Aug I can understand being a problem. Never seen much of a use for those.

"The Meta Game does not stop at the game. Ever."

Currently Retired / Semi-Casual (pending changes to RL concerns).

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#9 - 2012-04-03 05:46:10 UTC
Hmm, supercarriers and titans: only half-broken. Not bad.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Xurr
Wasted Potential.
#10 - 2012-04-03 06:05:43 UTC
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-04-03 06:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Nedes Betternaem
Xurr wrote:
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.

Same here... damn shame, I was planning on buying one in the somewhat near future too.
Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-03 06:18:10 UTC
Xurr wrote:
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.



What drone changes??
Farang Lo
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-03 06:22:06 UTC
cant understand why proteus is broken, loki is ok, legion is really really broken
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-04-03 06:23:37 UTC
Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:
Xurr wrote:
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.



What drone changes??

They plan on adding salvaging drones.
marVLs
#15 - 2012-04-03 06:23:49 UTC
Are You F... Kidding me? Golem on green?

I don't want to live on this planet anymore...
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-03 06:24:22 UTC
Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:
Xurr wrote:
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.



What drone changes??

Salvage drones
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-04-03 06:26:41 UTC
Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:
Xurr wrote:
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.



What drone changes??


There are several drone user buffs coming, but I'm guessing he refers to the introduction of salvage drones.
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-04-03 06:32:03 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:
Xurr wrote:
Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.

With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.



What drone changes??


There are several drone user buffs coming, but I'm guessing he refers to the introduction of salvage drones.

There are several changes to drones, but the ones that are relevant to marauders are salvage drones.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#19 - 2012-04-03 06:33:16 UTC
The chart was definitely made prior to the AF buff. They have the Harpy as "broken" and I doubt they mean it in the "OMGLOLOP" way that it is now.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Xurr
Wasted Potential.
#20 - 2012-04-03 06:35:43 UTC
The ones i were referring too was the addition of a bounty to the drones.
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