EVE General Discussion

Herpderp,

Erm, I'm promoting Bounty Hunting, would be pretty ineffectual as a gameplay option if there were no criminal targets don't you think?

As such my argument has never been that Suicide ganking should be removed as a valid gameplay option.

Please take a few moments to engage brain for once.

Whats it going to be? Above you say it won't prevent criminal activity now your saying it has different hopes?

Comments I have noticed in C&P previously is they would welcome the chance to have their occupation enlivened with more meaningful gameplay. Mainly since they are more concerned about the fun elements of EVE than being solely focussed on a meta win mentality. They actually would rise to the challenge of being confronted in their activities. There is also the consideration that it might add an ability to seperate the effective criminal element from simple opportunists, potentially removing competition to the most effective criminals. Or those that can adapt to anything than just hanging at a Jita gate and picking off the most juicy pinatas.

Otherwise I'd be pretty dissapointed with the Criminal fraternity if they simply rolled over due to the reality of possibly being shot at, especially when there is the possibility of surviving said encounter.

As such I have a more encouraging vision from my crystal ball and certainly have more confidence in the tenacity and capabilities of the criminal element we have in EVE today.

Good question though it is more a correction than an implementation.

My answer would be that I'd see it as a victory for more EVE gameplay options in the sandbox.

And in respect to the topic in this thread, I'd see it as promoting more PvP.

My current view personally is that I'd see the BH system as potentially being an activity that can be used to counteract the criminal element or offer a choice for player policing and afford more player control due to choice of activities either way as opposed to having to complain to CCP about just the criminal mechanics.

With the BH options the argument can be self regulated by players as the option and tools are there to be used in the sandbox. So if BH is seen as effective then the main aspects of arena for the "balancing" could be taken away from CCP in theory. This assumes the goalposts don't move of course in terms of perceived equilibirums.

Not sure if its naive to assume it's the holy grail of forum argument removal as a result, but for me I'd like to place that kind of confidence in the players with it's use.

Please dont confuse the introduction of an effective BH system with the removal of Concord. Given the current situation and player abilities that's an unrealistic goal. Suggest reading some of the proposals in the link below to see suggestions regarding the mechanics.

I can't vouch for every player's opinions no. But then again the extreme threads we see regarding consensual PvP I don't feel should be used as an argument that everyone in EVE follows as a philosophy, similarly to threads about PvP dieing in HS.

How does it get softer? We'll get more targets, this means more PvP potential not less.

How is it NOW harder? We have less targets and those don't even fight back. Odd concept of "PvP". It's more like farming, a typical PvE activity.




You could, like, move 5 jumps away and enjoy lawless low sec or something?




5 years ago you had insured gank ships making it almost free. Easy to be pro for free, eh?
But 5 years ago there were not supercharged Catalysts or Alpha-nadoes.
I don't remind CCP having boosted badger's EHP, what prevents you from killing the officer gear stacks untanked haulers today or tomorrow?
Oh, don't come at me with the excuse that the loot alt will be tagged, I ninja loot wrecks every single day and nobody ever touched my caldari character (flying a caldari destroyer). Mostly at Jita / some gates / some belts, some low sec gates like Rancer and OMS and Maila.




This is probably the same question more and more new players ask themselves every day after being ganked and podded.

All this sh!t would not have happened if some guys would not be complete morons, not stopping at a clean suicide gank.
No, they MUST go for pods. They MUST exploit if they can. They MUST announce on this forum how they will selectively go after newbies and make them unsubscribe (and try convince others to follow them).

How do you think a publisher is going to react to this kind of idiots?

We switched from the "era of decency" to the "I will do EVERYTHING I am let to until I am stopped" era.
Guess what? The agents in charge (in RL and in game) have to step in and stop those guys, whereas before this era they could close an eye on those rare exceptions.




I suppose we'll become an unconsensual target after the patch comes. But wait, wasn't unconsensual PvP with consequences what made EvE great?