EVE General Discussion

With the recent patch notes and the proposed changes to the criminal flagging and wardec mechanics I was wondering, why don't you just turn off highsec aggression already? Clearly it is no longer in CCPs interest to have people fighting in highsec without consent, so why not just take it away from us completely now and save us the 2 or 3 years of it getting slowly pushed aside. You'll probably only drop a few subscriptions now anyway as you have pretty much banned most of PL and Goons for RMTing ahead of their proposed jita camp.

Why draw out the death of highsec PvP CCP, just put a bullet between its eyes and never look back.

I applaud you for taking this to the logical conclusion rather than having to iterate repeatedly before converging to the solution.

Listen to this person, they have thought though this.

Lulz.

CCP is basically removing all meaningful hi sec pvp.

Can you hear the woosh? It's the sound of WoW in space approaching the server.

Suspect flagging = OH ****, everyone can shoot me. If more than one person can attack me **** that, that's not fair and highsec is full of carebears.

This is how it should be, break the rules followed by the majority, get your arse whupped by the majority. The days of popping a 200 million ISK mining vessel or a PVE fitted missioning ship for minimal personal risk and the loss of a gank fitted ship are coming to an end. PVP is the game but the biggest whiners about the changes are the "PVPers" who might actually have to do some proper PVP instead of picking on miners and mission runners whose ships are not suitable or fitted for that purpose.

Yeah, it's gonna suck when you actually lose your ship when you suicide gank.
Next they'll make it so 1v1 duels don't allow people to have 5 neutral RRs on their side too!

Griefer kills carebear
Alt steals loot
Other grifer kills alt
Other griefer steals Alts loot
Other griefer kills second alt.
There is no loot left

Gate griefing becomes a dog eat dog system and the griefers are eating crow.

So how does it feel to be the victim?

Ganking is fighting without one parties consent last I checked. Since the op thinks CCP is interested in removing non-consensual highsec PvP, how is it not related?

Did you miss the part about tags for sec status and farming alts for sec status or did I completely overlook something? Because it seems to me that there are going to be more ways to recover sec status for ganking and no additional penalties.

And at the same time several the proposed changes will have a hugely deleterious effect on several types of highsec PVP gameplay to the exclusive benefit of NPC corp jet can miners and missioners who get really mad at ninjas but aren't in a corp and don't have a PVP ship.

As someone who actually does PVP in highsec outside of wars and ganking the crimewatch changes look awful. Like worse than dominion sov awful.

Going to have to disagree. Placing oneself in a situation where something is possible and explicitly consenting to it happening are not mutually inclusive. Either way "Death of highsec PvP," would include this kind of activity.