Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well, we don't, and won't, really. We cannot use caps in high-sec, we cannot use bubbles in above null-sec, we cannot reliably use frigates to tackle at gates in low-sec, etc etc etc. That stuff is more about where the rules are set, not about "sandbox". There's always going to be limits and balances even in a sandbox. But the "no total opt-out from pvp" is in my opinion as essential part of EVE as the sandbox nature.

In a few months, you can also learn to fly safely.

If you can afford that new hulk within a few months, you are good enough at the game that you don't qualify as a noob anymore and can play by the grown-up rules.

One of the first rules I learned on starting the game was "don't fly what you can't afford to lose", and taking that first mission-running BS out of dock was a pretty big deal. So I was very careful with it, even though it was hardly worth ganking. If you are worried about losing a hulk, don't fly a hulk until you have the finances or the know-how to do so without worrying. In this game rushing to "max level" and wearing the elite gear doesn't always mean that you're ready to play the "end-game", whatever that is.

Eve is clearly marketed as one server, one persistent universe, one ongoing war, to add a purely PVE server to the mix would make a mockery of everything CCP and the players have done with the game. There are no other MMOs, as far as I know, that can boast that they have what CCP has achieved in terms of pushing the gaming envelope, the amount of influence players have over the outcome of the game and indeed the emergent gameplay contained in the game.

I've not played many MMOs, but this is the only one I've played where one person or group of people can have an effect on a whole universe and all the players in it, and that is why I play it, one day I may be the person that starts something that effects everybody else.

My god I sound like the marketing department, someone gank me quick

GAWD you definitely pwnd me.

NOT!!!

Your posted reply is just like you, full of BS. Show proof where I said I think highsec is less secure than lowsec and nullsec.

And while you're at it, show proof that CCP is going to make high sec even more dangerous than it already is.

I agree, but most players want to keep CONCORD, so you're facing an uphill struggle here.

What do you see yourself doing on a PVE only server?

Shooting rats to get ISK to get stuff to shoot more rats with?

Why not just play a single player game and not pay a subscription? I hear that X3 is still pretty good.

*Vain attempt to direct :seriousposters: to the nearest calendar*

Anyone who doesn't think that PvE server would destroy the game needs to click This link

edit: goddammit, it's the 1st. Oh well, still good info for anyone who might unironically think that.

Curse this hangover

Well, it's always nice to see when people realise that they actually have to have some kind of reasoning and arguments to have a debate, and that, lacking those, you have chosen to participate. This is a good lesson. The next step is figuring out those arguments and presenting them or, should you fail to do so, realising that your initial position might actually need some revision.

Wait. You think “” means “angry”?! Where on earth did you get that from?
Oh dear. You still have a lot to learn.

It would represent an awful amount of wasted cash and developer time on something that would shut down after two weeks.

Luckily, CCP knows this, so they will never do something that silly and counter-productive, and have, in fact, chosen to go the opposite route instead by resting its marketing efforts on the things that make EVE unique: it's complete lack of any real PvE.

So you agree, then, that your claims are baseless.

Funnily enough, there's quite a few of those. The strange thing is how these “poor newbies”-threads are so often created by obvious alts and only ever supported by old players who still haven't learned how to play the game.

The simple fact remains: in spite of this supposedly immense threat to new players, they are still coming in at a steady pace, and even players who absolutely hate the mechanic are still after all these years. So the threat is, at best, very very very tiny, to the point of not actually existing at all.