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Announcing the Formation of the Praetorian Auxiliary Force
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Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#21 - 2012-04-02 07:15:00 UTC
Tri Vetra wrote:

Detailed information about foreign participation in capsuleer operations in Bleak Lands theater is public as are PIE recruitment standards and definitions of who they consider to be a foreigner. If you have some basic degree of competence you can take a minute to learn something, if not, you go post on space forums.


I'm not sure where you were educated, champ, but where I come from, one of the usual ways to find out about something is to ask questions. So, that would be me taking a minute to learn something. By asking and awaiting an answer.

Good on you, mate.
Garreck
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-04-02 07:46:13 UTC
Valdezi wrote:
It would be very unlikely, I would think, that many Gallente citizens would sign their lives away for Empress and Empire any time soon.

Unlikley and uncommon, but not unheard of.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2012-04-02 09:38:46 UTC
Garreck wrote:
A wonderful initiative, Lord Blake. I wish your Auxiliary great success and good hunting!


Thank you!

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2012-04-02 09:42:28 UTC
Valdezi wrote:

And what is meant by foreigner? Ammatar? Khanid? Or do you mean actual foreigners.


PIE Inc. membership is restricted to pilots of the Amarr, Ni-Kunni and Khanid bloodlines. PAUX has been set up to allow other bloodlines to join us in serving the Empire.


Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#25 - 2012-04-02 11:43:50 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
PIE Inc. membership is restricted to pilots of the Amarr, Ni-Kunni and Khanid bloodlines. PAUX has been set up to allow other bloodlines to join us in serving the Empire.


I appreciate the response, sir, and I watch with interest.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#26 - 2012-04-02 17:06:09 UTC
Excellent news Rodj. The terrorist and barbarian hoards need to be kept in check. This newly formed Foreign legion will help keep New Eden a safer place. Bravo lord Blake.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2012-04-02 19:10:54 UTC
And what of enlightened Amarrian citizens that are not of Amarr/Ni-Kunni/Khanid origin ? Eualurians ? Ammatars ? Enlightened emancipated slaves ? And others ? Why can not they exactly apply for PIE Inc, when they are supposed to be imperial citizens too, as much as any true Amarr commoner ?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2012-04-02 19:32:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Lyn Farel wrote:
And what of enlightened Amarrian citizens that are not of Amarr/Ni-Kunni/Khanid origin ? Eualurians ? Ammatars ? Enlightened emancipated slaves ? And others ? Why can not they exactly apply for PIE Inc, when they are supposed to be imperial citizens too, as much as any true Amarr commoner ?



Show me a private Ealurian or Ammatar capsuleer that was trained by the Empire, and I'll concede that you may have a point.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2012-04-03 11:12:02 UTC
Ah I see, so would this would be mostly a matter of CONCORD records or just which capsuleer schools they attended ?
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#30 - 2012-04-03 12:52:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Caellach Marellus
I remember hearing a military joke once about how the word "Auxillary" was just a nice way of saying "Cannon Fodder" It worked because the people in said Division were too stupid to realise what it meant.


Regardless, the best of luck with your new endeavour, who knows.. this might even spawn a sequel tribute song!

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Reann Amelana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-04-03 12:59:53 UTC
I look forward to flying with those who wish to serve the Empire.
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2012-04-03 13:28:49 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Ah I see, so would this would be mostly a matter of CONCORD records or just which capsuleer schools they attended ?

I'd guess that the question at hand here is: Why should a loyal citizen of the Empire get a capsuleering degree from a foreign institute? Why would e.g. the Republic spend resources on educating someone who is an Empire-serving, loyal Ammatar?
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#33 - 2012-04-03 14:06:34 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
I'd guess that the question at hand here is: Why should a loyal citizen of the Empire get a capsuleering degree from a foreign institute? Why would e.g. the Republic spend resources on educating someone who is an Empire-serving, loyal Ammatar?

People are not always exactly honest about these things when entering institutions.

And some of them change their minds.
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2012-04-03 15:12:57 UTC
Interesting development, I must say. Good luck.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2012-04-03 17:41:40 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Ah I see, so would this would be mostly a matter of CONCORD records or just which capsuleer schools they attended ?

I'd guess that the question at hand here is: Why should a loyal citizen of the Empire get a capsuleering degree from a foreign institute? Why would e.g. the Republic spend resources on educating someone who is an Empire-serving, loyal Ammatar?


This is confusing. Admiral Blake said that I had to find an Ealurian or Ammatar having been trained by the Empire, then you tell me that all of them must have been actually. I see your point of course.

Anyway, I was trying to know on which criterias are judged Amarrian applicants for PIE, and it would seem that it is mostly a matter of schools they studied in : considering that all enlightened cultures like Ealurians, Ammatars, Udorians, etc, as you say, generally make their studies in imperial academies, that criteria seems logical.
Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#36 - 2012-04-04 01:42:18 UTC
So what is actually being said here is that the Minmatar have so consitently bashed your fleets that now you are looking for help, good to know.

Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism
Reann Amelana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-04-04 12:43:35 UTC
Los Muertas wrote:
So what is actually being said here is that the Minmatar have so consistently bashed your fleets that now you are looking for help, good to know.


We are allowing other races who which to serve the Empire the opportunity to do so, this means that more pilots will be able to take the field led by Gods servants. PIE has specific rules regarding employability, which will always remain. as for the progress of the war, times of victory and times of loss are sent to test our faith. Perhaps you should try having a little Los Muertas.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2012-04-04 16:20:10 UTC
Vaari wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Graelyn wrote:


what will keep you from repeating the same disastrous mistakes you made with AMAX over 6 years ago?

The fate of the oldest and most respected loyalist capsuleer paramilitary hinges on you having good answers to such queries.



As I'm sure you remember there were issues with a section of the AMAX leadership and their loyalty.

The PIE leadership will select the PAUX Commandant and will maintain control of PAUX shares. This will minimise the possibility of the corp turning rogue.


It still means two leader. That will not end well. However, when you need mediator with your revolting pet, Lord Vaari will gladly offer his wisdom and guidance to resolve the situation.


When I think of revolting pets, I always think of you.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#39 - 2012-04-04 16:26:07 UTC
Careful, Rodj, or Vaari might try to bury you with his self-appointed titles in an attempt to suffocate you.

.. In all seriousness, I'm in agreement with Cardinal Graelyn. This seems to be too little, too late, given all that's been going on. But it will be interesting to see where it goes, at least.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Garreck
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-04-05 08:54:05 UTC
A fundamental difference between this Auxiliary and Amarria Auxilia is the origin of the organization. Rather than being the merging of two corporate identities and strategic visions (however 'similar' they may have seemed at the time) this Auxiliary is the very product of PIE's corporate identity and strategic vision. With tighter controls on recruitment and tactical deployment, as well as the inherently unified strategic vision, I do not foresee the same obstacles for this Auxiliary as eventually overcame AMAX.

I don't know much about the shape of things in the Bleaklands and the warzone between the Imperial Crusade and the rebel state, but I'm certain God will bless this Auxiliary and use it for His glory.
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