EVE General Discussion

The mechanics of the so-called EVE's sandbox has created a pervasive gaming culture where every foul behavior normally not condoned in the real world- short of breaking the EULA/TOS - is allowed, even encouraged. Griefing, ganking, bashing, lying, cheating, killing, mass-murdering. That's the brigand mindset that EVE has created.

"EVE is Real", advertises CCP. Recently we found out that it's actually true. We saw that a supposedly normal, decent person cannot keep separate mindsets -one good, another bad. Forcefully the bad one will prevail, and illegal acts may be perpetrated. We also saw that not even CCP is able to make a judgement call based upon the laws of the country. CCP has been promoted as the ultimate court instance and law upholder. A 30-day ban is the ultimate punishment for an illegal act commited. A private apology and monetary compensation - made virtually using in-game tools - is substitute for a real-world hearing in front of a flesh-and-bones judge.

Everyone is lacking a moral compass, including EVE's sandbox.

Yes, EVE is all about brigands. Those who excel in the art of being a bad criminal are glorified, promoted, and politically supported. This is an important factor to explain why EVE - after almost 10 years after launch - remains a niche game. It's a cult, a sect, a religion of a minority who mostly seek an outlet to nurture their bad side.

There is no place for those like me that would like to create a better future by engaging in law-abiding activities. If EVE were really a sandbox, we "carebears" would have tools at our disposal to seek, promote, and even enforce our way of life against the brigands pounding at our doors.

A brigand game - what would you expect from Icelanders descended from Vikings?

You should be worried about the real-world police catching on. This game will end very badly you know. Goons are already metagaming, you should see how many of little goons line up behind their master brigand.

A 30-day ban will not keep the blood tide from rising up. And I mean blood spilled by goons.

You're terrible, bro.

In this game called EVE-Online like to win by outsmarting other players. I'm actually a very evil person and my hobby is stamping on puppies, when I'm not stealing candy from toddlers (the tears, the tears!).

edit: I also used to wardec people for fun, but Jezus made me see the light.

Sister Aylleen, I welcome you to our humble spaceship game. I would like to formally invite you to become an officer at the Publow Confederation.

Pretty cool that a niche game keeps getting MMO of the year awards.

Cult Members 4tw.

Here in the forums, where else would they be?

There are at least ten thousand of them... You know, they managed to elect the CSM chair.

Yeah, it's definitely a game where the more of an arse you can be, the more you will progress. I don't have an internet badass side, just like in real life I can't scam people or be a pirate or take pleasure in other peoples' suffering. Many will say it's not the game for me, but I disagree. I've played on and off for 4 years or more, I enjoy it. I enjoy doing missions, I enjoy going to lowsec and doing some PvP, but you can't get anywhere unless you're an arse and I'm fine with that.

But hey ho, Guild Wars 2 is coming soon. =D

I voted for him before the incident. His platform on new content and ship balance was good.

A very small part of the CFC actually took part in the Interdiction.

In an ecomomy driven by War especially null War Goonswarm destroyed over 10000 ships this month.

Across all sec statuses here is the number of Non Combat Ships Goons destroyed this month.

Mining barge 27
Exhumer 76
Industrial 60
Transport 40
Freighter 2
Jump Freighter 1
Cap. Industrial 0

Ten Thousand Sociopaths seemed to be to busy playing the game to make much of an impact on the 200000 High Sec Accounts. During the interdictions they manage on average 500 kills of Exhumers a month in an 8000 man corp. Expecting that a few of the pilots ganking are repeat offenders I am guessing that High Sec isn't being hit by the full force of these 10000. Almost like most of these people are average players flying around doing EVE Null Sec Stuff.

Perhaps media is blowing things slightly out of proportion.