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[Proposal] CSM Member Real Life Names

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#1 - 2012-03-31 11:03:21 UTC
Tonight I listened to Eve Radio where the CSM spoke about The Mittani Scandal and then The Mittani and Nyphur talked about the consequences and fallout of associating real life name with overly sensationalist terms. The conversation was much less dramatic than I expected and I'm very thankful that Nyphur was so willing to work with The Mittani. Eventually they even made up and almost e-hugged. How cute.

However, there's an important take away to be had here: what could have been a story about a drunk mostly anonymous ******* making an exceptionally stupid comment at Fanfest became so much more because of the use of a real name. The news elements fed off of each other with all making various untrue allegations towards not The Mittani - but the player behind The Mittani. And really, this is hardly the first time that someone's real life name has come up in terms of their actions on the CSM - for instance there are several people who have been accused (but not "convicted") of breaking the NDA and now their real life is similarly affected. So effectively: the use of a real name takes things to the next level. And this is going to be true any time someone's real life name is used - whether that person is The Mittani, Jade Constantine, Liang Nuren, or yours.

At any rate, at the end of the show, someone posted The Mittani's real life address and someone else said they were headed that way to **** The Mittani's wife. This isn't the first time I've seen something like this said, but I've learned a lot about the way CCP handles it since the last time I saw it so directly. And just to be clear: CCP takes these threats very seriously and I wouldn't be surprised if someone's received a visit from their local law enforcement tonight.

So with all of this in mind, I believe that the CSM white paper should be amended in such a way that the CSM candidates (and eventual CSM members) real names and countries of origin are not given to the player base as a whole - but strictly to CCP. The real life information of current CSM members is already available, but that's no reason for future members to potentially be put in similar real life situations.

We as a player community have proven that we are not responsible enough, not mature enough, and not sane enough to be trusted with this information and this proposal is meant to help our upcoming CSM candidates - those whose real names aren't known yet. Maybe even people like you.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Eva Blacklist
Friendless.
#2 - 2012-03-31 11:12:55 UTC
/signed
Javelin6
#3 - 2012-03-31 11:16:38 UTC
Supported
Banderlei Shiiba
SSAP KG
#4 - 2012-03-31 11:18:31 UTC
There is literally zero reason why the playerbase should be privy to any of that information. Supported!
Madlof Chev
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-03-31 11:19:14 UTC
This is a great idea.
Mirthless Bloodreign
Romex Inc.
#6 - 2012-03-31 11:19:38 UTC
Supported.
Lulzes
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-03-31 11:19:53 UTC
/signed
Inoriani
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-31 11:19:53 UTC
Signed. Get on it, CCP.
Necr0s
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-03-31 11:20:14 UTC
Supported
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#10 - 2012-03-31 11:20:25 UTC
Madlof Chev wrote:
This is a great idea.

Definitely.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 

Tobias Quin
Handsome Persuasion
#11 - 2012-03-31 11:20:28 UTC
Great idea, no reason for real names to be in the CSM as far as I can tell.
Tanaka Aiko
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-03-31 11:20:42 UTC
supported
Professeur Producteur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-31 11:21:15 UTC

Agreed. /signed
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#14 - 2012-03-31 11:23:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
I say to not cave in to those particular elements within EVE. They will have 'won'.


Especially with the way some sectors of EVE players s***talk (they just don't know when enough is enough though), even this extreme talk is probably not serious, just NOT thinking and more than likely it is (again) alcohol influenced.

Better to deal with law enforcement (with NO delay) if necessary like last night on a case by case basis ahould this arise again in the future.

Upd: EVE needs to have the 'bad boy on the block" reputation, but now it seems more like the 'psychotic idiot on the block'. Alliance and Corp members need to 'eyeball' thier members better. These behaviors are usually evident in some fashion BEFORE these things happen. But then the type they hang around with probably think it's funny.

Update 2: I see the GOONS are really FOR this. And MAINLY Goons. I smell a rat. CSM and CCP really better THINK HARD before doing away with RL names. Seems to me like someone is trying to pull a stunt and get away with something anonymously. More than likely they have found an exploit of a sort. I'd be REAL careful here.................

Update 3: Re-read the article about all of this. I'd be careful (I can't stress that enough) and REALLY BE SURE that was not somebody's idea of a bad joke on that radio show. Something seems staged about it. THAT needs to be looked into as well.

Besides, a CSM composed of anonymous Toons will not be taken very seriously at all, and may as well not exist.

Signed, James Causey, Palm Harbor, FL

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-03-31 11:23:32 UTC
I suspect that many prospective CSM candidates have been scared off by the idea of surrendering their anonymity. There is no good reason to force people who genuinely wish to help the EVE community to expose themselves to RL harassment and other nonsense over a video game.

i.e. supported

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

TheWarpGhost
Golan Guns and Butter
#16 - 2012-03-31 11:24:31 UTC
/Signed.

Never underestimate Total Internet Dickwad Theory.
Banderlei Shiiba
SSAP KG
#17 - 2012-03-31 11:24:37 UTC
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
I say to not cave in to those particular elements within EVE. They will have 'won'.


Don't think of it as caving, think of it as asking why the hell that information is even public in the first place.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#18 - 2012-03-31 11:24:40 UTC
Yup, this would be a good thing.

I might suggest that the part about who they are in real life(background info) be displayed tho, as certain backgrounds would help people with the job. If they are displayed without names, CCP should verify so we know it is the truth and not some random claim(if Trebor had claimed all the things he had done and I couldn't look them up, I would have assumed he was full of crap, for instance). Just make sure the info is vague enough not to be identifying.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Carg Haaul
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-31 11:26:26 UTC
Do it.
Isabella300
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-31 11:28:38 UTC
/signed

No one should ever be a target for threats of any kind in a online game and defiantly not in Real life!!! because of interests or game play.
This is way out of line and can never be justifiable in any way !!!!!

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