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CCP, REMOVE ARTIFICIAL CAP ON NOCXIUM PRICE (Pax Amarria)
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RectumRanger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-03-31 23:20:58 UTC
BURN ALL PAX AMARRIA!
Mookie Quantico
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-03-31 23:25:45 UTC
Yep.. nerf, nerf, nerf it, BABY ! Bear

It's not like it needs any mineral value whatsoever as an NPC item.

And yes, I LOVE NOCX ! Pirate


Mook
bornaa
GRiD.
#63 - 2012-03-31 23:52:40 UTC
RectumRanger wrote:
BURN ALL PAX AMARRIA!



+1
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#64 - 2012-03-31 23:54:05 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:
Zircon Dasher wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?


This.

Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine.
Now you mad?

Or did you just not know about this until now? LolLolLol

Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work.


The market price goes wherever production and consumption force it, and it shouldn't work any other way. We're moaning because regardless of drone region nerfs and bot bannings, nocx prices can't go up any further on account of an unlimited source of nocx. That flies directly in the face of CCP's stated goal to make mining worthwhile. It also makes for a terrible market to trade in-- restrictions on the market are restrictions in gameplay.



There is already enough noxcium in the belts for everyone. I am happy that im getting 25% more than i was 6 months ago. Stop bloody crying because someone else is getting it different to you. There is absolutely no reason and quote me on it, absolutely no reason. if this is easy enough and profitable enough more than mining , for you not to do it yourself. Whiners like the OP and you ruin the fun of people doing it their way and not your way.


Seriously?

o7
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#65 - 2012-04-01 00:18:10 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:



There is already enough noxcium in the belts for everyone.


If we're reprocessing millions of npc trade goods for it, clearly there isn't. Either way, that's not a judgement call and if it were it wouldn't be yours to make. (In other words, stop talking like a damn socialist.)

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I am happy that im getting 25% more than i was 6 months ago. Stop bloody crying because someone else is getting it different to you.


I ain't cryin', I don't mine, and the nocx I get from melting down mission loot is pretty negligible. I get nocx by buying it. (There you go with the socialist thing again.)

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There is absolutely no reason and quote me on it, absolutely no reason. if this is easy enough and profitable enough more than mining , for you not to do it yourself. Whiners like the OP and you ruin the fun of people doing it their way and not your way.


Seriously?

o7


With this method you can create unlimited amounts of nocx almost instantaneously. You're dense if you consider this comparable to mining. I'll give you one good reason-- as long as the pax amarria cap exists, because there is zero effort involved, it will return almost no profit for those who do it (except in exceptionally large volumes), and mining nocx will forever continue to give mediocre income as well.

Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#66 - 2012-04-01 00:30:17 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:


Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.



This right here.

What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.

seriously?


o7
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2012-04-01 00:31:45 UTC
Just make it so npc seeded goods can't be melted down for anything
Adunh Slavy
#68 - 2012-04-01 00:33:28 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Celeritas 5k wrote:


Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.



This right here.

What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.


I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Rangloff
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-04-01 00:37:42 UTC
This is very bad for the market good find OP.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#70 - 2012-04-01 00:42:14 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:


I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners.



Good on You dude.

Some people are happy at making a profit. I am, and it seems your are too. Would I like to make more profit? hell yeah. but im not going to cry, because something is capping my profit.

If it doesn't make the profit I want then I'll move onto something else. simples


o7
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#71 - 2012-04-01 01:05:08 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Celeritas 5k wrote:


Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.



This right here.

What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.



So you argue that my motivation is that I stand to make a couple hundred mil, and not that both the mining profession and the market are being screwed over on a massive scale by what is clearly an artificial, unintended, and unforseen cap on the price of nocx.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#72 - 2012-04-01 01:05:12 UTC
I never knew you could reprocess a book for minerals.

Adapt or Die
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#73 - 2012-04-01 01:34:33 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Hausman Heckman wrote:
Pax Amarria is an NPC-seeded good that you can refine for 6 nocxium and 2 isogen




THIS UNDERCUTS MINING AS A PROFESSION

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Just goes to prove: AMARR GOD HATES MINERS

Imagine the outrage if the Koran/Bible was being burned/recycled as fast as Pax Amarria EvilTwisted the protests in Amarr should make the Jita Spring look silly Lol

This should be illegal in Amarr yet legal in every other Empire
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#74 - 2012-04-01 01:44:06 UTC  |  Edited by: malcovas Henderson
Celeritas 5k wrote:


So you argue that my motivation is that I stand to make a couple hundred mil, and not that both the mining profession and the market are being screwed over on a massive scale by what is clearly an artificial, unintended, and unforseen cap on the price of nocx.



You make a couple of hundred mil WITH the cap. So why moan. It all about greed. Your profit margine would not be much more greater without the cap. As miners would sell for more as the price increases.

Just because something takes no effort. is not a reason to change things. Hauling takes no effort in high sec. should CCP remove hauling?. Where would you be in your noxcium profits then?

Your arguement is all about greed.


o7
Sidiion
ATHANOR AQUISISTIONS
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#75 - 2012-04-01 01:49:53 UTC
if you want free minerals, just reprocess BPC's they give out tiny bits of trix, pyerite, nocx, mex and isogen
Baillif
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-04-01 01:51:41 UTC
Should be ruled an exploit
Sidiion
ATHANOR AQUISISTIONS
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#77 - 2012-04-01 01:52:54 UTC
Baillif wrote:
Should be ruled an exploit



what should be ruled an exploit?
Baillif
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-04-01 01:57:42 UTC
The Pax thing. It won't be of course because it really isn't different from insurance once upon a time.
Hausman Heckman
Asstronauts
#79 - 2012-04-01 02:52:46 UTC
Baillif wrote:
The Pax thing. It won't be of course because it really isn't different from insurance once upon a time.


Well, they took that out for a reason
Adunh Slavy
#80 - 2012-04-01 03:05:50 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:


I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners.



Good on You dude.

Some people are happy at making a profit. I am, and it seems your are too. Would I like to make more profit? hell yeah. but im not going to cry, because something is capping my profit.

If it doesn't make the profit I want then I'll move onto something else. simples


o7


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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt