EVE General Discussion

I think he confesed to have done it like 600 times in the OP, but maybe we are reading a different thread?

Nah, learn to read.
Instead of quitting, its better to just specifically target younger carebears until they quit EVE permanently.
Even if ganking at a loss now, they can't match your wallet or income.

And yes, you do seem slow. Sadly, you can't fix stupid.
Good thing I don't share your problem.

/facepalm

What the OP did was "legal" at the time. However, it was a technique that CCP hadn't realized was possible and more importantly, they have decided that it is detrimental to the game. Thus CCP has officially declared it an exploit until they can patch it.

What you really should be arguing over is the OP's implicit assertion that Eve is catering too much to carebears in a PvP game, and whether his crusade of killing newbie miners to encourage botting to keep ship prices down is a good idea or not.

I noticed this on the eve university wardec exploit when I petitioned it prior to the public reversal of the position on this as a known exploit.

Simply put the response was that this was an exploit, they would look into it but I was asked who was involved, told them eve university and the petition was closed and I was told it was not an exploit, asked for an explanation of how and why this known exploit had changed with no one being told about it, then a month later the rules were removed completely in public. This was six months after the exploit by eve university had begun.

Was never told why the rules were changed and eve university was given explicit permission to do so and why was not informed why no one else in the wider EVE community was told. Nearly a year later I still have no idea when or why this exploit was changed beyond an interpreted comment that GM's were too busy to enforce the games rules.

Too busy to enforce the games rules. :ccp:

Rock on mate!

And you're completely right about mining bots being good for the game. Cheaper minerals means less miners, cheaper ships, cheaper mods ala more missioners/ratters, and potentially more pvpers. Trying to make mining a good profession again is a mistake on CCP's part and tbqh, if they changed all bounties ->alloys right now it would benefit the game immeasurably.

In any case thanks!

The real sociopaths are not the gankers who log on with the intention to gank, destroy, etc. The sociopaths are the ones who want to drive people to suicide (at best) and ganking is merely a way to do it. You can tell a sociopath by how they never admit to what they do while trying to make their victim appear to be entirely at fault.

People who state plainly (like the OP) that their goal is to log on and kill stuff, gank, spank, and other shenanigans as the way of their game, are not sociopaths. I give credit to Tears, Goons (who hide real game-related goals behind griefing), Skunk and others credit for actually being honest. You don't have to like them. If a politician outright says to me "I want to take your freedom and your money and use the state to do it" I would credit him for honesty but I still would not cast a vote for him.


One thing to point out here. Most players here are Americans. Americans do not adapt to survive, or change to improve their chances to survive. The political climate of EvE comes from this influence and you can take that from the RL politics as a template: if you can't survive or adapt, then.... COMPLAIN. And ask for more laws that are basically centered around squashing or taking money from people you don't like socially or financially and giving yourself more freedom and money on the expense of others. So it should not be a surprise if carebears, their first order to being ganked, is to complain about it and ask for changes to rules and game mechanics.

The worst part is, and I hoped this topic in the original threads would not go this way, is that way too many people exist in RL with a "it can't happen to me" mentality. You'd think that, in human history where people got gassed by the millions while thinking they were only getting a shower, the human race would have learned. The only thing we can learn from history is that nobody ever learned from it. And a lot of this is from the "it can't happen to ME" mentality. Most of the problems in the world come from that mindset. When people get ganked, for whatever reason, there is a chance that a neural pathway could open up in their heads that is counter to the "can't happen to me" pattern they live under, and hence the simulation of that experience in a game might open up a chance to wake them from their RL sleepwalking. This has been one of the greatest reasons to promote EvE online.

Gee Whiz my last thread about my special tactics got ruled an exploit, I should make more threads about my special tactics!

For the TL;DR crowd.

OP is whining that he can't use an exploit anymore.



Kinda wondering why he just didn't say that and save everyone time.

Good question Id like to see answered by a blue

We have nt seen one of those in a while in this thread

There is an actual thread with GM answers here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89092