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CCP - Be prepared for ALOT of Unsubs - JITA GANKS

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Lady Spink
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#161 - 2012-03-30 18:45:15 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
So, basically, you want nanny CCP to step in and make sure you're wearing your footie pajamas. You want CCP to go directly against the reason Eve is unique by creating happy fun space where you can hide from the big bad meanyheads. Simultaneously, you advocate CCP not creating a system that can support heavy loads, and not doing the research they deem necessary to the game's development. You also seem to think that one system being overloaded will destroy the entire game, even though CCP has specifically state that is not the case, ESPECIALLY when they have advanced warning, which they clearly do.



It seems you have lost your brains.

It is technically not possible to host goonswarm in JIta. however, this alliance has the needs to crash the game. To prevent this it might be advisable to have the most crowded place in Eve (the biggest trade hub (not jita)) be passive (no shooting allowed) this way there is no fun for them anymore in JIta. And a big bunch of players (5000 subscribers) can still play their game.

CCP would have to fire too many people if the GOONs can do what they want to do

I dont want a nanny, but i just want to play the game when i come home from work. if some bored Alliance is killing my system (technically) i would not play the game anymore. Why would I, if i cant log in anymore?

I really appreciate it when goonshoarma ganks all systems around jita so that there are still a lot of tears and they might have made a point but it makes no sense to crash a game on purpose. normally that should give them a ban.
Karloth Valois
1st. Pariah Malefactor corp.
The New Eden Yacht Club.
#162 - 2012-03-30 18:45:46 UTC
you have a month to get ready, so really if you get killed thats your own fault, its not like its going to be a suprise.

Also if the highsec population would work together, they could do something about it, highsec massively outnumber goons. But they wont, they will ignore all the warning, get blown up and them moan that goons are allowed to do it...which they are, your allowed to suicide gank and thats all they are doing. As someone already pointed out you never the risks before you joined the game, the game is famous for not being 100% safe. I wouldnt play if there was no risk involved and people like goons couldnt fly to jita and just blow everyone up for a few weeks.

A really smart carebear could make some money out of it. How about move a ****-ton of tornado's into jita now, those goons aint gonna wanna go far to re-supply they might as well be buying them for you. Of just move all you **** out to another trade hub now and wait for everyone else to move somewhere else for saftey and other traders not able to get there stock out of jita.

Plus, i love the idea if jita does get quiet i might be able to fly in there after without my local going crazy with bullshit bot spam. no point risking getting banned for botting if no-one in system to read it.

It's not been nice, but thanks for using lube
Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#163 - 2012-03-30 18:49:30 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
crying.


U mad bro?

I ♥ the orthrus
Weiland Taur
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#164 - 2012-03-30 18:51:19 UTC
Lady Spink wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
So, basically, you want nanny CCP to step in and make sure you're wearing your footie pajamas. You want CCP to go directly against the reason Eve is unique by creating happy fun space where you can hide from the big bad meanyheads. Simultaneously, you advocate CCP not creating a system that can support heavy loads, and not doing the research they deem necessary to the game's development. You also seem to think that one system being overloaded will destroy the entire game, even though CCP has specifically state that is not the case, ESPECIALLY when they have advanced warning, which they clearly do.



It seems you have lost your brains.

It is technically not possible to host goonswarm in JIta. however, this alliance has the needs to crash the game. To prevent this it might be advisable to have the most crowded place in Eve (the biggest trade hub (not jita)) be passive (no shooting allowed) this way there is no fun for them anymore in JIta. And a big bunch of players (5000 subscribers) can still play their game.

CCP would have to fire too many people if the GOONs can do what they want to do

I dont want a nanny, but i just want to play the game when i come home from work. if some bored Alliance is killing my system (technically) i would not play the game anymore. Why would I, if i cant log in anymore?

I really appreciate it when goonshoarma ganks all systems around jita so that there are still a lot of tears and they might have made a point but it makes no sense to crash a game on purpose. normally that should give them a ban.


Don't forget that CCP has the ability to shut Jita down themselves. The Goons may find that they have few targets when CCP takes the gates offline or spawns MOM's or other big nast Concord doom ships into the system. However get in on the fun. Get a ship. Shoot a goon (or someone else).
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#165 - 2012-03-30 18:53:16 UTC
Lady Spink wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
So, basically, you want nanny CCP to step in and make sure you're wearing your footie pajamas. You want CCP to go directly against the reason Eve is unique by creating happy fun space where you can hide from the big bad meanyheads. Simultaneously, you advocate CCP not creating a system that can support heavy loads, and not doing the research they deem necessary to the game's development. You also seem to think that one system being overloaded will destroy the entire game, even though CCP has specifically state that is not the case, ESPECIALLY when they have advanced warning, which they clearly do.



It seems you have lost your brains.

It is technically not possible to host goonswarm in JIta. however, this alliance has the needs to crash the game. To prevent this it might be advisable to have the most crowded place in Eve (the biggest trade hub (not jita)) be passive (no shooting allowed) this way there is no fun for them anymore in JIta. And a big bunch of players (5000 subscribers) can still play their game.

CCP would have to fire too many people if the GOONs can do what they want to do

I dont want a nanny, but i just want to play the game when i come home from work. if some bored Alliance is killing my system (technically) i would not play the game anymore. Why would I, if i cant log in anymore?

I really appreciate it when goonshoarma ganks all systems around jita so that there are still a lot of tears and they might have made a point but it makes no sense to crash a game on purpose. normally that should give them a ban.


I don't think you really understand whats being done, here. Shooting you is not 'trying to crash the game' and bringing a large fleet isn't going to take down anything. CCP have had ample warning, and have a specific protocol to deal with EXACTLY THIS KIND OF LOAD.

If anything, CCP will be watching and gathering data.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#166 - 2012-03-30 18:54:24 UTC
Weiland Taur wrote:
Lady Spink wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
So, basically, you want nanny CCP to step in and make sure you're wearing your footie pajamas. You want CCP to go directly against the reason Eve is unique by creating happy fun space where you can hide from the big bad meanyheads. Simultaneously, you advocate CCP not creating a system that can support heavy loads, and not doing the research they deem necessary to the game's development. You also seem to think that one system being overloaded will destroy the entire game, even though CCP has specifically state that is not the case, ESPECIALLY when they have advanced warning, which they clearly do.



It seems you have lost your brains.

It is technically not possible to host goonswarm in JIta. however, this alliance has the needs to crash the game. To prevent this it might be advisable to have the most crowded place in Eve (the biggest trade hub (not jita)) be passive (no shooting allowed) this way there is no fun for them anymore in JIta. And a big bunch of players (5000 subscribers) can still play their game.

CCP would have to fire too many people if the GOONs can do what they want to do

I dont want a nanny, but i just want to play the game when i come home from work. if some bored Alliance is killing my system (technically) i would not play the game anymore. Why would I, if i cant log in anymore?

I really appreciate it when goonshoarma ganks all systems around jita so that there are still a lot of tears and they might have made a point but it makes no sense to crash a game on purpose. normally that should give them a ban.


Don't forget that CCP has the ability to shut Jita down themselves. The Goons may find that they have few targets when CCP takes the gates offline or spawns MOM's or other big nast Concord doom ships into the system. However get in on the fun. Get a ship. Shoot a goon (or someone else).


If CCP directly interferes, the sandbox is dead. They have only done so ONCE before and it is widely regarded as a ****** decision.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#167 - 2012-03-30 18:56:03 UTC
Vito Antonio wrote:
Is jita burning again?
It seems it's always burning while I'm offline Sad


Nope, April 28th is the scheduled burn Jita day. I would like to point out that the 28th is a saturday, and is just after the pre-release for Inferno.

Seriously folks, if Inferno is is going to be even more major than Crucible, is there truely a better way to herald the summer expansion in than with fire?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#168 - 2012-03-30 19:09:33 UTC
OP, your complaint is so bad that people are scrambling in to agree with the Goons.

Agree with Goons.

Think about that for a second.
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#169 - 2012-03-30 19:09:48 UTC
Adapt and overcome ... or fail miserably. Your choice.

Don't try to force CCP to ruin everyone elses game just because you want to feel safe in EVE of all places.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#170 - 2012-03-30 19:11:09 UTC
Tippia wrote:
OP, your complaint is so bad that people are scrambling in to agree with the Goons.

Agree with Goons.

Think about that for a second.



Not empty quoting.

Burn it down!

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Weiland Taur
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#171 - 2012-03-30 19:14:31 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
Weiland Taur wrote:
Lady Spink wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
So, basically, you want nanny CCP to step in and make sure you're wearing your footie pajamas. You want CCP to go directly against the reason Eve is unique by creating happy fun space where you can hide from the big bad meanyheads. Simultaneously, you advocate CCP not creating a system that can support heavy loads, and not doing the research they deem necessary to the game's development. You also seem to think that one system being overloaded will destroy the entire game, even though CCP has specifically state that is not the case, ESPECIALLY when they have advanced warning, which they clearly do.



It seems you have lost your brains.

It is technically not possible to host goonswarm in JIta. however, this alliance has the needs to crash the game. To prevent this it might be advisable to have the most crowded place in Eve (the biggest trade hub (not jita)) be passive (no shooting allowed) this way there is no fun for them anymore in JIta. And a big bunch of players (5000 subscribers) can still play their game.

CCP would have to fire too many people if the GOONs can do what they want to do

I dont want a nanny, but i just want to play the game when i come home from work. if some bored Alliance is killing my system (technically) i would not play the game anymore. Why would I, if i cant log in anymore?

I really appreciate it when goonshoarma ganks all systems around jita so that there are still a lot of tears and they might have made a point but it makes no sense to crash a game on purpose. normally that should give them a ban.


Don't forget that CCP has the ability to shut Jita down themselves. The Goons may find that they have few targets when CCP takes the gates offline or spawns MOM's or other big nast Concord doom ships into the system. However get in on the fun. Get a ship. Shoot a goon (or someone else).


If CCP directly interferes, the sandbox is dead. They have only done so ONCE before and it is widely regarded as a ****** decision.


Good point, Xander. However the spawning of Concord ships to deal with the threat within mechanics would be fine. However I would prefer for hisec players to see the threat and respond. I imagine what we will see is Time Dialation and due to Hisec players not being familiar, panic.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#172 - 2012-03-30 19:15:17 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec.
I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.

Are you really going to allow this to happen?

Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...

I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...

not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...



Umm, While I have no love for the Goons, this is EVE, no one is 100% safe.
Try to think of it as an Opportunity to see how Bee's work, instead of interference in your game. Lol

P.S. Fit a cheap ship and come to Jita on the 28th. There will be Whine served with Huney, and it will probably be the Bee's providing the whine....Shocked

Signature removed - CCP Eterne
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#173 - 2012-03-30 19:17:02 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
Ohh Yeah wrote:
Will it make new players quit? Or just those with no interest in anything outside their highsec fantasy land?

I think as a new player I would be fascinated and become interested in 0.0 politics and EVE as a whole.


That's why I joined. The Pendulum wars between BoB and the Goons sparked my imagination. It was real people fighting for real things. It wasn't a knight with a glowing sword farming a raid boss every weekend to get his new boots. It was a dynamic world of politics, intrigue, war, and betrayal. When you tell people about Eve, you don't play up MINING. You don't try to sell them on running 'Rogue Drone Harassment' 400 times. You talk about the wars, you talk about the betrayals, you talk about the pirates, and you talk about the griefing. You tell stories that you dont FIND in other MMOs.

**** like this? This is what Eve IS.


My sentiments exactly. You can do things in eve that no other MMO will let you even try let alone succeed at. All it takes is the will to act and the support to make it happen. This is what a sandbox is supposed to be and I salute everyone who makes it that way. It may not be perfect but its a damn sight better than anything else out there.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
Xervish Krin
Intaki Fine Stationery Solutions
#174 - 2012-03-30 19:26:06 UTC
People who can't stand a bit of chaos, a bit of loss and a the necessity of a bit of common sense will be the ones losing. And honestly, they aren't the kind of people I think we need playing the game. Where exactly is the fun in doing the same thing over and over with no change and no interruption simply to churn out isk, only to be able to carry on in a bigger ship?
Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#175 - 2012-03-30 19:26:35 UTC
I honestly didn't understand much of what the OP tried to say. Really. The grammar and spelling mistakes were so bad that I gave up halfway through. Even if the OP doesn't speak English as his/her primary language, it's still below average for a 15-year old living outside the US.

That aside, why does it bug everyone so much that the Goons are going to attack Jita? Okay, fair enough, they want to attack one of the Trade-Hubs. That's just a strategically smart move, even if they lose hundreds or thousands of ships in the process. And besides, you have been warned, so if you don't want to risk being killed in Jita on that day, why don't you ujst go to another Trade-Hub? This is actually only going to improve the game, to be honest. Goons will make lots of people leave Jita, people still need to sell stuff, lots of small Trade-Hubs appear all over New Eden or the others get a boost. As it looks right now, you can actually lie outside a station in Dodixie in an untanked industrial and the chance you'll get ganked will be minimal. Why? Because Dodixie is ignored. It has maybe 300 people in local on a good day, less than 50 on a bad day. So if the Goons are going to improve the game by attacking Jita, I say we let them do it.

Goons claim they want to ruin the game, but this is actually going to improve it a lot for us industrialists.
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#176 - 2012-03-30 19:27:06 UTC
Back in good old UO, you could attack people in town. You'd get insta guard-whacked, but if you could use something that would guarantee death (big ol' halberd, deadly poison, etc) you'd get a kill off. You could even have a friend / other account standing by to loot you after the event.

This was when the subs were at an all time high.

After the kowtowing to carebears, the game's subs dwindled. It still exists, and is a sad, sad shell of its former self.

Fortunately, CCP Soundwave used to play UO and knows all of this.

TL;DR: No.

Hello, hello again.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#177 - 2012-03-30 19:28:08 UTC
Anshio Tamark wrote:
I honestly didn't understand much of what the OP tried to say. Really. The grammar and spelling mistakes were so bad that I gave up halfway through. Even if the OP doesn't speak English as his/her primary language, it's still below average for a 15-year old living outside the US.

That aside, why does it bug everyone so much that the Goons are going to attack Jita? Okay, fair enough, they want to attack one of the Trade-Hubs. That's just a strategically smart move, even if they lose hundreds or thousands of ships in the process. And besides, you have been warned, so if you don't want to risk being killed in Jita on that day, why don't you ujst go to another Trade-Hub? This is actually only going to improve the game, to be honest. Goons will make lots of people leave Jita, people still need to sell stuff, lots of small Trade-Hubs appear all over New Eden or the others get a boost. As it looks right now, you can actually lie outside a station in Dodixie in an untanked industrial and the chance you'll get ganked will be minimal. Why? Because Dodixie is ignored. It has maybe 300 people in local on a good day, less than 50 on a bad day. So if the Goons are going to improve the game by attacking Jita, I say we let them do it.

Goons claim they want to ruin the game, but this is actually going to improve it a lot for us industrialists.


Goons don't want to ruin THE game. They want to ruin YOUR game.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#178 - 2012-03-30 19:31:16 UTC
Obvious goontroll is obvious.
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#179 - 2012-03-30 19:32:34 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec.
I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.

Are you really going to allow this to happen?

Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...

I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...

not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...


They can play the game too btw, and this is a great chance to cost them a lot of money, and i will tell you how to do it

go to jita with a two day old alt that can fly a huller. let them kill you over and over costing them a lot of cash without costing you not much of anything. when they are bored of killing you over and over, start moving stuff outside of jita and mark it up.

look you have made tons of cash and they have lost it.

also you have a month to prepare, dont go to jita, problem solved
Rykuss
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#180 - 2012-03-30 19:39:00 UTC
Klown Walk wrote:
Why would newer players go into jita?


"Dude, you gotta go there!"

That's why.

lol


You, too, can be a Solid Gold dancer.