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CCP - Be prepared for ALOT of Unsubs - JITA GANKS

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#121 - 2012-03-30 17:03:42 UTC
I hate Jita, I hate it with a passion, CFC are welcome to raze it to the ground as far as I'm concerned.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Akai Kvaesir
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#122 - 2012-03-30 17:10:30 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec.
I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.

Are you really going to allow this to happen?

Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...

I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...

not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...

Way to roll over. Just because they're Goons doesn't make them gods. They can be killed just as easily as we can. There is enough players in highsec to decimate the GSF (if there was a united front against them). Behold the Anti-Swarm!

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Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#123 - 2012-03-30 17:12:27 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.

How much are you willing to wager? They* said the same thing about every single Hulkageddon.





















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My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#124 - 2012-03-30 17:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: My Neutral Toon
As a CFC pilot who fully intends to have a ganking alt in Jita with my comrades, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the eve community to unite agaisnt us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would make this all the more epic.

If a bully kicks sand in your face, instead of cryong to mommy and daddy (CCP) go back out on the playground and bunch that big bully square in the nose.


I can't stress to you guys enough, how much I want the eve community to show up against us. This is what makes EVE the greatest MMO gaming world in existence.

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#125 - 2012-03-30 17:16:06 UTC
I for one, will be afking in a heavily tanked ship of somekind, with no cargo and full insurance
Minabunny
Bogus Brothers Corporation
#126 - 2012-03-30 17:22:18 UTC
There are tons of .5+ systems in this game. Goon & their alliance members do not have enough members to cover them all. Their advertised main event is to cause havoc in Jita. Who cares. Let them throw their tantrum for a few days and go play in other areas like most people will do.
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#127 - 2012-03-30 17:25:49 UTC
got a alt on build i might not be in a corp atm but i will go solo gank some stuff. u cant stop people ganking in high its part of the game.
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#128 - 2012-03-30 17:29:48 UTC
Katarina Reid wrote:
got a alt on build i might not be in a corp atm but i will go solo gank some stuff. u cant stop people ganking in high its part of the game.

I'll be there too. Player created content like this is what makes this game so awesome and I intend to contribute and play a part in this story. Rather than just read a news item I want to say 'I saw Jita burn'.
Lady Hestia
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#129 - 2012-03-30 17:36:46 UTC
It'd be interesting to see the Jovian empire have something to say on "the swarm of Jita". Hopefully, it will involve explosions.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2012-03-30 17:39:32 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec.
I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.

Are you really going to allow this to happen?

Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...

I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...

not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...



They can gank Jita all they want. I hardly ever do my grocery shopping in Jita.

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#131 - 2012-03-30 17:39:54 UTC
I would like to point out something else that the antigoons can do. Now for those of us with higher sp and expensive clones, this would be more difficult. You rookies can really have fun with this. You simply can bait killmails.

Here is what you do, buy cheap T1 haulers, and herofit the crud out of them. Talking bulkheads, damage controls and shield stuff. What we are looking for here is as many goons as you can get on a gank on you, openly get ganked! Hopefully they actually plan on it indiscriminately. Heck, if I still had my freighter, I would have insured it, fly it in and let them gank it. And a very good reason.

You get something called a killright! Come in your own T1 cheap fit combat ship. I am talking get a pulse geddon or the like and insure. If you cannot afford that, get your cruiser or whatever. You now have kill rights so can target them one at a time. They get gank on you, you can now shoot them when you see them to get their gankship without concord offence.

Amazing! Goons get their assault jita as pirates and crime ensues. Highsec (though requires getting the suicided ship) can fight back without getting a sec hit.

And in all reasonability, we all have ships we can suicide. The main risk comes if you do not have an empty jumpclone, or clone replacement in case of bombs and poddings (you know there will be that). Highsec has the advantage is their ships will be insured. Can start teaming up too, after you rack up some killmails, get a couple of good spider tankers in a rear flank protecting the KM guy with primary dps.

To quote Lfod Shi

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Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#132 - 2012-03-30 17:43:58 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec.
I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.

Are you really going to allow this to happen?

Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...

I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...

not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...


Do something about it. You have some power, some, but only if you work to organize. The last thing anyone needs, is more government (CCP intervention) . If anything, I like the idea of CCP allowing Jita to explode, even though I will be fighting to save it, it gives me a tangible objective to defend, and something to work for.

If you are that worried about new subs being cancelled, perhaps sit outside of Jita with a can that says "The end is nigh" and inform new players to pack up and move to dodixie for a few.

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Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#133 - 2012-03-30 17:45:16 UTC
Lady Hestia wrote:
It'd be interesting to see the Jovian empire have something to say on "the swarm of Jita". Hopefully, it will involve explosions.


No, that would be stupid. Stop being stupid.

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Lady Spink
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#134 - 2012-03-30 17:45:30 UTC
It is very easy.

CCP should make Jita a passive environment. they are bright enough to write this in the story for our role players.

If the Biggest trade hub in game is a non violent system, CCP could also remove their focus to have as many as possible players in 1 system.

Lets make Jita a 1.1 system(all guns and drones are jammed) and let the Goonshoarma fight in Perimeter.

Jita gankers can gank everywhere so maybe they loose 5-10 subsribers?
Mana Potion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#135 - 2012-03-30 17:45:58 UTC
evereplicant wrote:

Ok lets put your money where your mouth is.. Let me constantly gank you all day.. and lets see how long you you stay playing the game...Deal?


here is where you went wrong. if someone sits at a station and blows you up every time you undock... and you keep undocking over and over... I am thinking you haven't figured out that undocking is dangerous and you should do something to protect yourself. or you should set your clone somewhere else and at the next death.. you will be far away...

That Ganker isn't going to follow you to where ever you moved your clone... he is gonna stay there and blow up the other idiots that undock in an unsafe manner.

The Goonswarm is not going to harrass gank you or any other specific person... they will spread their version of "Fire" across anyone and everyone... Don't fool yourself that you think they are targeting any one specific person to get them to quit.. they don't fight with that in mind. they destroy because "Destruction is Fun!"

I have found that most new players get destroyed doing many things. and for some they learn "Once Bitten, Twice Shy"

If (System.name == Jita) and (PVPDeath == True)
Avoid (System.name = Jita)

Most people will not go get burned over and over again unless they have some mental inability to learn from their mistakes. I they are in this category.. perhaps they should unsub and seek help.
Darronis Olachenko
#136 - 2012-03-30 17:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Darronis Olachenko
People that would quit over this are people I don't want in my game anyway.
WhyTry1
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#137 - 2012-03-30 17:48:37 UTC
well in a way i agree, having one alliance pretty much control the whole game, is not right fundamentally. Thats when there is something seriously wrong with the game. Personally i am more than happy to go play another game if this continues.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#138 - 2012-03-30 17:50:02 UTC
Lady Spink wrote:
It is very easy.

CCP should make Jita a passive environment. they are bright enough to write this in the story for our role players.

If the Biggest trade hub in game is a non violent system, CCP could also remove their focus to have as many as possible players in 1 system.

Lets make Jita a 1.1 system(all guns and drones are jammed) and let the Goonshoarma fight in Perimeter.

Jita gankers can gank everywhere so maybe they loose 5-10 subsribers?


You do realize trade hubs are entirely player created, right? Any system can be a trade hub. CCP didn't pick Jita, we did. Jita is not special.

Welcome to the sandbox. Sometimes you have to share it.

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#139 - 2012-03-30 17:50:19 UTC
Sieges wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
[quote=The Antiquarian][quote=evereplicant]Plus in the new upgrade you can buy your way out of sec status

I am curious about this. Is it truly ISK for sec?


Not ISK (directly anyway) but tag. Officer tags giving more of an boost than others. Check the presentations given at fanfest: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEF9C7121272AC727&feature=plcp
Can't remember on which one it was mentioned, sorry.

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Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#140 - 2012-03-30 17:50:50 UTC
WhyTry1 wrote:
well in a way i agree, having one alliance pretty much control the whole game, is not right fundamentally. Thats when there is something seriously wrong with the game. Personally i am more than happy to go play another game if this continues.


Take a look at the sov map some time.

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