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I understood as a way to heal the Amarrian spirit in their own way, but I suppose this is again something subject to personnal interpretations.



Anonymous infiltrated agents ?

I oh I fully and happily will test that hypothesis if he does indeed try to show his face.

I've responded to your specific request via mail. However, as for a schedule of events, one will be posted as we draw closer to the days of the festival. All I could tell you for certain is that Ava Starfire is likely going to be performing the voluval ceremony for one of my members at some point and that on the evening of the final day of events, we will be having the main Vanquishing the Devourer ritual.

Perhaps not. On many levels it's simply proper to break down or destroy the old before building up the new. We see this in quite a few aspects of life, from things as mundane as architecture and construction, AI programming, and medicine in some cases. On a more spiritual level traditional Amarrian faith dictates that old habits, old beliefs, and the very core of a person must be stripped to it's foundations before trying to build faith within a person. Obviously we can debate the implications and methods used for that practice, but the intent is to build something greater than what was there to begin with.

In some sense, this ceremony for Vanquishing the Devourer could be seen as a similar practice. It's hard to see it as some sort of hostile practice if you take the time to see the similarities.

To put it simply, the empress and theology council must be butchered.

It wouldnt hurt to purge the noble class either.

While it is a rather easy process to label something else as evil, then use that as justification to commit heinous acts, I do not believe that is the intent or end result here. The idea that some explicit healing ritual is different than this ceremony strikes me as...odd. Again I'll reference the theme that for the good to flourish the ill facets of something must be destroyed. Specifically, the basis of all modern antibacterial and antiviral medicines are indeed ways to destroy the bacteria or virus and then focus on helping a patient to recover. Another medical metaphor that should be easy to see would be some sort of malignant tumor. The first step toward recovery in that sort of situation is the excising or destruction of the cancerous cells.

While some may not agree that the current practices of the Empire are indicative of an illness within the Empire, the intent is to heal the Empire. So this ritual is a healing one, just as you'd suggest Nicoletta.

Further, I'd like to think I know Shaman Truzhari at least well enough to infer a few things. Yes she can be quick to anger when provoked, and yes she certainly has reason to feel the Empire is infected by quite a few evils. But I would never believe her intentions in this matter are somehow malicious. I have no reason to suspect this ritual will involve the beating of some actual Amarrian, so really, where is the harm?

Added some emphasis in there. My understanding of what Kikia has said is that she feels the Spirit of the Empire is sick, not in any sort of demeaning way, but in the same way that any one of us might be when we have a cold. The twisted and evil part, well...that could just as easily be some personal bias or could be a result of the sickness afflicting the Spirit of the Empire. Either way I personally don't find that offensive, just as I wouldn't find it offensive if someone pointed out Fesh, one of my slaver hounds, was sick.

I'll not go too in depth into the "misguided" part beyond saying this. From a stereotypical Amarrian perspective the Matari people are misguided, while at the same time from a stereotypical Matari perspective the Amarr are misguided.

Cpt. Fehrnah, I'm not surprised you put special emphasis on the 'sick' part and try to get the 'twisted and evil' part out of view. While I appreciate your attempt at reconciliation here, I don't agree in the least with your method of downplaying what has been said here. If the Spirit is 'simply' sick you'd try to heal it, not claim, as explicitly specified by Cpt. Truzhari, that it needs to be slain. I wouldn't have any problem with the 'sick' part, if it weren't quite clear from context ('Sick, twisted and evil' - sick being obviously part of this climaxing tricolon.) that not a medical condition is meant here. And even if the medical condition is meant, there is the 'twisted and evil' part left, spelling it out in quite clear terms.
And of course you aren't offended when someone is pointing out that your drooler is sick. But first, by the choice of your words is implied that it would indeed be sick, and second he probably wouldn't say: "Cpt Fehrnah, your slaver hound Fesh is sick, twisted and evil. It needs to be slain!" Think about that.
As to the 'misguided', I think I've been very specific in that Cpt. Truzhari is misguided in this for specific reasons. It's not at all about her being Matari. So, please, stop arguing with stereotypes, it's really below the standards of good debating

In regard to what Cpt. Farel said: Indeed, considerations about other cultures are often clumsy and we Amarr aren't innocent of doing equally stupid things. It doesn't change the fact that doing something like that is not acceptable, independent of who is doing it and of the fact that it is done quite often.

Cpt. Rhiannon,

I respect your honesty about this and would like to thank you for your clear and open words. Tiptoeing around an issue doesn't help, honest words do so much more. I have to live with the fact, that you obviously don't care whether I or any other Amarr consider your rituals acceptable and that you've your very own perception of the Empire and the Amarrian religion. Similarly, you have to endure that I will voice my concerns and objections in a public venue like this one.

As to your suggestion in regard to healing that Spirit ourselves, I assure you that, if I see any ailment that has befallen this spirit, I will tend to it as best as I can.

Faithfully,
N. Mithra

Captain Mithra; since you speak of appreciating honest words, it would you do well to openly admit that your Empire's religion does indeed contain as its core beliefs the idea that the Amarrian people has been chosen by God to bring other peoples to His light, if necessary by conquest and slavery. Even the most peaceful Amarrian sects tend to disagree only on to what extent such violent means are necessary - not on the task God has given to the Empire.

That is not "my very own perception" of the Empire. It is what your nation is. Any discussion between us will be completely fruitless if you are unable to admit in public.