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The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me.

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Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#61 - 2012-03-29 21:24:13 UTC
Last time I will post in one of these whining threads.

GSF has always metagamed in EVE and even took it beyond levels anyone could imagine.

They have pulled off stunts which make the whole Mittani debacle look like kids play.

Now that their beloved CEO and heavily voted on chairman for the CSM get's a piece of his own medicine the whole world all of a sudden is too small to breath in without inhaling absolute contempt that GSF got hit by a part of the outgame things they themselves always prided themselves with.

I don't give a rats arse if Goons try to be the ultimate bad guys. But hell, you went from ultimate bad to ultimate whiny in the course of a few days.

For years you have done your uttmost best to be the most hated entity in EVE and now that you have what you wanted all along you start crying about how unfair it is when your own tactics get used against you.

You truly are a pityfull remnant of what once Goons actually were and I hope The Mittani is gonna slap some real Goonblood into you guys and girls again.
C Genix
Genix Family
#62 - 2012-03-29 21:24:25 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.



I'm sorry? The public mockery of a pathetic **** that used the threat of suicide for social manipulation not once but twice is why he is being punished? **** that. The Wis is the one who should be permanently ******* banned for doing something so abhorrent as to threaten suicide to make gankers feel bad for him and leave him alone. Anyone in this game who does something like this should be banned. It is disgusting and a slap in the face to anyone who is ACTUALLY having these issues in real life. That fact that you would support this kind of **** is disgusting and utterly pathetic. Go to hell you *******.



Calm down kidda

2 wrongs don't make a right

Wiz was out of line if he lied

Doesn't excuse M actions in the slightest

Don't try play your high card on me either, cos I've lived on a ward for 2 years sectioned against my will for suicidal tendencies

It is YOU who are now using it as a platform

Get over yourself

and get well
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-03-29 21:25:23 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.


You have a very strong point and I agree completely that anyone that chooses to mock somone elses IRL issues by pretending they suffer from them or cracking jokes at them about it is wrong.

However I also feel that going out and promoting others to harass someone about/into commiting suicide is also an offense.

It's like a Tale of Two Cities...

If the victim was pretending then he is just as wrong that this situation as gotten out of hand. Although I nor you can honestly say what his mental status is. We just don't know that when it comes down to it and that's why these actions had to be taken. To protect THOSE that DO have issues from others who would THINK the act of doing what Mit did was kosher..

It wasn't. I understand where you are coming from. But Mintanni is not innocent in this case. If anything he's the one that fail for some bait and if that guy knew he was going to take it ALL the way to Fanfest and make a presentation and then get drunk and present his presentation.. I serioulsy don't think that happened.. It would take a bid between the both of themm..
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#64 - 2012-03-29 21:27:50 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.

And you know nothing you pathetic vulture.


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Dharh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2012-03-29 21:38:04 UTC
Some of you people need to seek some serious mental help.
C Genix
Genix Family
#66 - 2012-03-29 21:45:36 UTC
Dharh wrote:
Some of you people need to seek some serious mental help.



You know from someone who's had a bit , I'd say a few people round here would be best adviced to seek profesional help.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#67 - 2012-03-29 21:46:26 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.

Quoted for truth.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
C Genix
Genix Family
#68 - 2012-03-29 21:47:13 UTC
Like this girl , she could do with some meds I reckon
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-03-29 21:50:51 UTC
It's a game. Real-Life has nothing to do in a game. If someone is manically depressed and suicidal, he shouldn't be playing a game that allows people to go out and kill others as they see fit. He might as well have played Counter-Strike, and tried to convince the opposite team not to shoot him because "he's a suicidal and he'll kill himself if they shoot him in the game". It's not an argument, it's a sign of extreme desperation. He already knew he could get shot at anytime, anywhere. He had plenty of opportunity to know that Goons were cutting off Gallente High-sec Ice Belts. He just decided to go mine anyway (most likely AFK too), and then use a (possibly made-up) mental state as a defence for making them not shoot him. The Goons did nothing wrong. They just played the game their way.

Although The Mittani did cross the line by telling people to go harass that random ice-miner and make him kill himself. Joking with telling people to force others into suicide isn't funny. That's just morbid. But ganking people and stealing from them in-game is just playing in the sandbox. When you're playing in the sandbox, for a long enough time, you're bound to get hurt one way or the other.

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C Genix
Genix Family
#70 - 2012-03-29 21:53:15 UTC
This guy probably be OK with a bit of councilling, a little masochistic but nothiung serious
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-03-29 21:56:18 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.


Who cares?

What TM did was way over the line and morally reprehensible. Nothing can excuse the fact he encouraged people to convince someone to kill themself.

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Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-03-29 21:59:14 UTC
It does not matter what condition you have, you leave it at the door. If you do not want to be ridiculed for your conditions / rl character, do not bring it into the game. I have said it before, and will say it again: No one should be immune to ridicule and contempt for their actions in EVE, nor for their attempt to bring their own ****** life into EVE. In every post scam/gank conversation you have in EVE, you will usually assume that someone (o/ OP) is lying for pity or to make you feel bad.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#73 - 2012-03-29 22:03:44 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.


I call BS. He was not sorry and never was beyond the fact that he was justifiably punished for his behavior.

I have been so severely depressed I was suicidal for a very long time. For years! Life is better now because I busted my ass and made it better but I can absolutely appreciate what the victim felt then.

Someone's very real life is worth more than The Mittani's account on a video game.

He should have been banned. Permanently. Period.

The fact that he was not is causing me right now to seriously reconsider how much longer I wish to keep playing this game.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-03-29 22:13:58 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.


Oh...you are this person's mental health provider? You can supply us all with documentation proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person in question has no signs of depression, clinical or otherwise? Because without that, you are in no position to evaluate anyone else's mental health, only your own. And quite frankly, you should be bearing the standard of this protest due to your own condition. You, above most of us, should be highly offended by the actions at the assembly. There is no way that you should even be defended them...I wager that has something to do with your alliances and all that garbage. Frankly, I don't care who my alliance is, if I was suffering from clinical depression and anyone associated with my group made light of it, I would have slugged them in the mouth for it.

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. That is what i have to say to those who would blindly defend what happened. Snap out of it. He has the decency to admit his wrong doing, and I don't understand why anyone would defend actions that were, at best, reprehensible.
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Altimo
Kitchen Sink Kapitals
#75 - 2012-03-29 22:48:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Altimo wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. You have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, stop playing, this is not second life.

Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc.



You guys just can NOT stop bashing...even BLAMING the victim in this case. At all. Jesus F'in Christ ya'll are sad, sad, sad.

This just isn't your week, is it ?



Did this not all happen because he sent that eve mail to the most notorious group in EVE in the first place? that's what started this whole thing, yes yes we know Mittani was wrong, I am not arguing that in anyway. But you really need to look to the bottom of this mess.

Things like this happen in EVE is because people take the game way too seriously at times to where it does harm to oneself and the people around them.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-03-29 22:49:37 UTC
Oh look another Mitanni thread.

His ban is going to expire and we are still going to hear people whining about this.

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Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-03-29 22:58:15 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Oh look another Mitanni thread.

His ban is going to expire and we are still going to hear people whining about this.


It'll be a dead topic by tomorrow

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-03-29 22:59:22 UTC
its a f ing 30 day ban, stfu and htfu

oh no, he lost his csm spot... he can go again next year
Jax Mones
State War Academy
Caldari State
#79 - 2012-03-29 22:59:59 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Oh look another Mitanni thread.

His ban is going to expire and we are still going to hear people whining about this.


It'll be a dead topic by tomorrow



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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2012-03-29 23:06:27 UTC
Too bad I can't post a JPEG of a dead horse being beaten.

I suspect that it would describe this thread very well.

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