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The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me.

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Minabunny
Bogus Brothers Corporation
#21 - 2012-03-29 19:47:45 UTC
Sheep tears.
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-03-29 19:48:07 UTC
Im not depressed im just one of lifes losers.


btw there is no such thing as "Severe Major Clinical Depression"

Its Clinical Depression or Major Depression depending on whether you subscibe to the DSM-IV or the ICD-3


Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#23 - 2012-03-29 19:48:36 UTC
I've dealt with depression for 15 years and anxiety for around 2. Yes, it's not funny when people use it to draw attention to themselves or others. If you feel disgust about people saying what took place was wrong, that's within your right, but incitement to harass someone who could have had mental health issues isn't acceptable behaviour. The matter has been dealt with.

If you feel there is some issue here I can only suggest you take it up with CCP. I've never dragged my issues into the game for sympathy or attention, and anyone doing so should step away from the game for a while and return when they feel ready.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Vanir Tsero
Ain't Misbehaving
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#24 - 2012-03-29 19:49:37 UTC
Well, You yourself threw out your clinical depression instead of keeping it private.

I also know that a lot of people who are suicidal will say things like this. My younger brother went through this. He reached out because he needed that attention. He was in a dark point in his life. He reached out for that much needed interaction but didn't get it. Thankfully, all tho he tried, he was not successful. It's also sad that it made it to that point before he got what he needed.

What I am trying to say is that how "you" feel about it and how someone else may "feel" may not be the same. If you do suffer from depression, you may suffer in a completely different way than someone else. Where as you may find that it should be private, others reach out and express these feelings.

Again, I reiterate... It's never worth the risk.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#25 - 2012-03-29 19:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Cellestielle wrote:
[quote=Vanir Tsero]Could we not say the same thing about your rant just now? Using your own Depression as an argument to state that another player is falsely portraying themselves as depressed

The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't me that they arn't

The internet prevents you from knowing for sure. Altho you may know transcripts from the player. You may have even met him at fanfest or know where he lives. The internet is still anonymous and knowing 100% that an individual is mentally sound is a false statistic

As I said before. It's never worth the risk when it comes to physical harm of an individual.[/quote


Someone who is actually suicidal does not go throwing that kind of **** out to make people feel sorry for them. A suicidal person deals with such things in private and then either seeks help or they become another statistic. They do not go crying to every person who does something mean to them and threaten to do it.


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Twulf
Purple Void Corporation
LinkNet
#26 - 2012-03-29 19:51:00 UTC
Goons, they think they are tough and "Hardcore" then something does not go there way and they cry and cry and cry. Its priceless really.

"Deal with it" as your dear leader once said not so long ago. Should take his advice goon sheep.
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#27 - 2012-03-29 19:51:00 UTC
Oh no, Meta-gamers got meta-gamed.

My heart bleeds.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#28 - 2012-03-29 19:51:12 UTC
Just pop a Valium before logging into the forum.

Works for me.

Mr Epeen Cool
Fishmaskle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-03-29 19:51:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Fishmaskle
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Goons and TEST continuously act like assholes on a daily basis and then cry about it when people don't like them.

This is funny stuff.


People really don't get how this effects EVE as a whole and the fact that they are Goons/TEST means squat. The Mittani may have been a goon, but on the CSM, he uses the Goons to actually find ways to make the game better for EVERYONE in the long run. Sadly few can see this through the shower of tears.

The fact that people hate Goons/TEST is because they push till they find the limit of almost everything (and their "Victims" are angry about being Victims). When the community that doesn't understand the system pushes back and increases the limits, that is when "freedom" within the Sandbox is lost.
If I helped you out, Technical Issue, enemy gank, popped your poor fit, hit the "Like" button.
Naj Panora
The Seekers of Ore
#30 - 2012-03-29 19:52:04 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.

And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth.

DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cellestielle
Mare Crisium Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#31 - 2012-03-29 19:52:22 UTC
And for those talking about goon pets or equating me with the goons. **** the goons. I hate em. I hate their treatment of test. I hate their hippocracy in stating that all members of the CFC are equal while at the same time treating us as nothing more than pets. I hate their double standards regarding their handling of usage of their space. I hate the way their diplos will outright lie to their allies. The way they have manipulated markets in fountain during deployments to favor their market assholes and industrials while screwing TEST members. **** the goons.

This is about one ******* who used the threat of suicide to try and get his way, and the public lynching of the one man with enough balls to put that ******* in his place. The Wis deserved it. And he deserves much worse. The Mittani, regardless of the fact that he's a bastard and a complete *******, did not.
Cellestielle
Mare Crisium Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2012-03-29 19:53:00 UTC
Naj Panora wrote:
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.

And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth.

DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Because he gave that information in the eve mail sent to the goons and in repeated posts on the forums.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-03-29 19:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Cellestielle wrote:
For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm........You all disgust me.



CCP has been notified of your condition and will be conducting their suicide hotline protocol shortly.

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Fishmaskle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-03-29 19:55:11 UTC
Naj Panora wrote:
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.

And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth.

DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Last I checked, The name of the Character IN GAME was relased, not the real life name. There is a big difference that everyone seems to purposly overlook...
If I helped you out, Technical Issue, enemy gank, popped your poor fit, hit the "Like" button.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#35 - 2012-03-29 19:57:36 UTC
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.



Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you.

Signature removed - CCP Eterne
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#36 - 2012-03-29 19:58:10 UTC
Kairos Antilles
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-03-29 19:58:40 UTC
Vanir Tsero wrote:
The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't mean [sic] that they aren't [sic].


+1. Unless you are a licensed clinicial psychologist or other mental health professional - you CANNOT make that determination.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-03-29 19:58:48 UTC
Fishmaskle wrote:
Naj Panora wrote:
Cellestielle wrote:
The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.

The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.

And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth.

DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Last I checked, The name of the Character IN GAME was relased, not the real life name. There is a big difference that everyone seems to purposly overlook...

Then there are those that keep overlooking the fact that IT DOESN'T MATTER!

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Capacity gear
True Terraners
#39 - 2012-03-29 20:00:18 UTC
sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'

however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing

you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#40 - 2012-03-29 20:02:17 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Really doesn't matter if the guy was truly suicidal or not on CCP's end. Even if he was lying about being suicidal, Mittens still was in the wrong for saying what he did.

And yes, if the guy was lying, then I would say that perhaps he deserves punishment as well. But that wouldn't excuse the actions of Mittens.

Hell... I think Mittens did a good job on CSM6 and IMHO doubt the focus of the game would have come to where it is now had it not been for his efforts.

But Liking the guy and the job he has done does not mean that he should come out of this without any punishments levied against him.

Though, I hope he runs again in CSM8.