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Contralto
Rift Tech
#61 - 2012-01-12 16:44:29 UTC
Chribba wrote:
After digging deeper into the issue I think I now have solved it.

Let me know if it still acts weird.

/c


Working ok now! back to normal, good job! Thanks
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#62 - 2012-01-14 20:27:08 UTC
Trivial:

* Orca on Ships page has the wrong faction icon. Should be Gallente not Caldari. [ORE actually]
* Noctis doesn't seem to have an icon.

Only noticed because of a bit of OCD.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#63 - 2012-01-15 21:13:38 UTC
Will see too that. I think some icons got mixed up when the new db was applied.

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Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#64 - 2012-01-19 08:29:02 UTC
Chribba, is it any chance you can add average character age to the various statistics pages? Also, on the statistics pages, how about listing the top 10 and not only top 5 characters for the highest SP in each bloodline?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#65 - 2012-01-19 09:56:54 UTC
Requests have been added, it also applies to corporation statistics.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#66 - 2012-01-22 08:09:57 UTC
Small bug where pilots could not register their pilots has now been fixed.

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Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#67 - 2012-01-22 14:17:13 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Requests have been added, it also applies to corporation statistics.

/c

Very nice. I'm surprised the average age is as high as 4y 198d.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#68 - 2012-01-27 14:51:02 UTC
Early this morning the [eb] server started to throw delay write errors on the data drive and minutes later it disappeared from the system.

Unable to get it back online I've had to pull a restore from earlier in the night so some characters will be missing between the hours of the backup and the crash.

Some scripts were never properly backed up either so some recent changes will be reverted back (average age etc).

Data recovery will be in progress shortly but until then I won't start recoding the changes until I know if I need to or not. Sorry for any trouble this may cause you.

/c

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#69 - 2012-01-30 23:50:55 UTC
[eb] should now be fully recovered from last weeks hardware crash and back to normal (on a faster disk again).

Also the latest feature additions should be back too.

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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
#70 - 2012-02-22 10:30:25 UTC

Hi Chribba

I'd like to make a suggestion of removing Average Sp Per Skill from the global score calculations.

The reason being is that it penalises those players who have a large #n of skills injected and there is nothing you can do to influence your score in that rank other than not adding new skills and training those you have to max, which could take years.

Keep the rank in the character ranks pages, just remove it from the global score calculation.

Anyone have any objections to the above suggestion?

Thanks
Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#71 - 2012-02-22 12:19:38 UTC
Amateratsu wrote:

Hi Chribba

I'd like to make a suggestion of removing Average Sp Per Skill from the global score calculations.

The reason being is that it penalises those players who have a large #n of skills injected and there is nothing you can do to influence your score in that rank other than not adding new skills and training those you have to max, which could take years.

Keep the rank in the character ranks pages, just remove it from the global score calculation.

Anyone have any objections to the above suggestion?

Thanks

It is about as fair to have that as it is for those of us that like to have fever skills but maxed out instead. We not only get penalized for having fewer injected skills we are also penalized for having fewer skills at lvl 4 and most likely none at level 3.
Oh yes, skill value is also a penalty we have to live with.

So all in all, I think you are way better of in total with the current setup.
Emma Royd
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Reckless Contingency.
#72 - 2012-02-23 05:41:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Emma Royd
Hi Chribba

One of my alts is in the rookie corp Ministry of War, but it's showing alliance as Morsus Mihi, so unless MM has pulled a massive coup there's a glitch somewhere. He used to be in a corp within MM but not any more.

*Edit*
In fact, even the the characters I've got in my corp are showing an old alliance
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#73 - 2012-02-23 07:14:31 UTC
Always taking in account how ranks should be calculated and aiming for a balanced math.

Emma Royd wrote:
Hi Chribba

One of my alts is in the rookie corp Ministry of War, but it's showing alliance as Morsus Mihi, so unless MM has pulled a massive coup there's a glitch somewhere. He used to be in a corp within MM but not any more.

*Edit*
In fact, even the the characters I've got in my corp are showing an old alliance
This should now be fixed, code bug causing it to not empty out old alliance on updates.

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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
#74 - 2012-02-23 10:30:16 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:

It is about as fair to have that as it is for those of us that like to have fever skills but maxed out instead. We not only get penalized for having fewer injected skills we are also penalized for having fewer skills at lvl 4 and most likely none at level 3.
Oh yes, skill value is also a penalty we have to live with.

So all in all, I think you are way better of in total with the current setup.


Agreed, There are several ranks that penalise different groups of players depending on their training choices.

I can live with a fixed 1000 pt penaltie for not being ranked in #n level 3 / 4 skills unlike Average sp per skill where one is ranked below 5000 and decending daily and there is nothing one can do to stem that decent.

other than spending the next 10+ years training all current skills to max and not adding any new skills which restricts a players training choice in that regard.

Skill Value is another rank that restricts choice if you wish to be ranked well in that catagory.

Either way, i'm in for the long haulLol

CheersCool
Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#75 - 2012-02-23 14:48:22 UTC
Amateratsu wrote:
Agreed, There are several ranks that penalise different groups of players depending on their training choices.

I can live with a fixed 1000 pt penaltie for not being ranked in #n level 3 / 4 skills unlike Average sp per skill where one is ranked below 5000 and decending daily and there is nothing one can do to stem that decent.

other than spending the next 10+ years training all current skills to max and not adding any new skills which restricts a players training choice in that regard.

I'm currently ranked 6232 in number of level 4 skills, up until I have got rid of the 60 outstanding ones my rank will keep on falling like a rock. And considering I'm unlikely to get all of them to 5 I will probably end up being stuck at a rank 28000 or something in that category.

I would say the average SP per skill is nothing compared to that with regards to terrible penalty.
Hendrik Tiberius
Straylight Systems
#76 - 2012-03-01 02:34:43 UTC
Hello Chribba,

first of all thank you for eveboard. I look at it a lot, more than the actual game these days ;)

I noticed you can not compare two characters that are both protected by a password.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#77 - 2012-03-01 08:10:28 UTC
I thought I made it so that if you have the same password for them you could compare... but maybe that was a dream. Else different passworded pilots cannot be compared as you can only hold one password in session at a time.

/c

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Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
#78 - 2012-03-07 05:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ford Chicago
Is the ranking algorithm public? If so, can someone provide a link? Also, I conclude that the ranking is done daily or at least asynch with stats as current stats can conflict with ranks. Chribba, when does the ranking algo run?

Also Chribba, I really appreciate this site. eve-search, eve-files and eveboard are probably my three favorite eve related sites. the official forums come fourth.

I wonder how long it takes for a post in this thread and a double reference to C will call Cthulu, err, Chribba, from the veldsparian haze....
RaTTuS
BIG
#79 - 2012-03-07 10:30:16 UTC
I'm currently gong though and training any level 3 to level 4 nowRoll

http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://i.imgur.com/kYLoKrM.png

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#80 - 2012-03-07 11:45:51 UTC
Ford Chicago wrote:
Is the ranking algorithm public? If so, can someone provide a link? Also, I conclude that the ranking is done daily or at least asynch with stats as current stats can conflict with ranks. Chribba, when does the ranking algo run?

Also Chribba, I really appreciate this site. eve-search, eve-files and eveboard are probably my three favorite eve related sites. the official forums come fourth.

I wonder how long it takes for a post in this thread and a double reference to C will call Cthulu, err, Chribba, from the veldsparian haze....

The alogrithm is public.

It's basically just an average of the ranks you have: sum(ranked)+((29-x)*1000))/x

Where x is the number of ranks you have. 29 being the number of categories that are included in counting towards the rank.

The ranks are being recalculated every 30 minutes. However without a manual pilot refresh, each pilot is only updated once per day.

/c

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