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I think the RATIO of aggresor members vs target members should be factored in the wardec cost more than just the members in target corp. This would take care of 10 member wardec grieving corps from deccing big alliances just for the easy kills while keeping reasonable costs for a 500 member ally deccing another 500 member ally

The formula for the cost of declaring a war could be something like

Cost = Base Fee + ( Cost per target member * Number of members in target * Aggressor vs target ratio

Aggressor vs target ratio = Max ( Target Members / Aggressor Members, Aggressor Members / Target Members

So for a 10 member grieving corp, declaring war against a 1000 member alliance will cost base fee + 1000*Member cost*10

Likewise a 100 member merc corp deccing a 10 member noob carebear corp will cost 10*Member Cost*10

Something like this might make the issue of padding corps with alts, rookies and inactive accounts less relevant

I am just wondering wether they are trolling us or what, can't believe they could be that idiotic on purpose. This drivel would be dooming every last trader, miner, PvE or industrialist corporation out there, let alone players with a one-man corp.

Non consensual PvP as in shooting defenseles miners, yes, very "leet" and not "griefing" at all...

These ideas are great but it doesn't stop the war deccer from just reinitiating the war right away again.

Ending it immediately is a no though. At the end of the week, if the defenders have a better efficiency by a noticeable margin (not 1% efficiency), then they can get a cesssation of fire for 1 week or something if they so choose.

I don't like that allies can join in as a freebie. There should be some cost for pulling an ally into the war on the game mechanics side. In my time as a merc, it's actually pretty common for deccers to hire counter-mercs out of sheer ego trip. So, the implied cost of mercs shouldn't be assumed since anyone can just join as an ally. Unless you're limiting this by forcing Mercs to pay a registration fee to be on the merc list in the first place or something.

The 2 effects of the system are going to be a mega privateer alliance deccing all the little corps, and then mega alliances protecting themselves from privateer alliances. So, maybe this will be inferno. ;p

Putting aside the fact that the only thing making you defenseless is you, under the new wardec guidelines you can look up and hire a not so defenseless merc corp to guard you right through the wardec tab.

How to phrase this in a nice consistent well thought out manner, instead of the rage I want to spew...

This change is bad. Not only is this change bad, I'm willing to say this is the worst change ever to come down the pipe from CCP's R&D skunkworks of game design

Highsec needed a nerf, but this isn't it. The economic blog basically said that the amount of money in game is going up and that ship/module prices aren't keeping pace with the rate of inflation. That means people have billions in their wallets not being used. Wardec costs are nothing. At 200mil start price and 500k per member I can afford to declare war on goons right now solo. And I doubt I'm the only person in the game with that sort of income sitting around unused. On small to medium sized corps i could keep the fight going till the end of time out of spite and griefing. Wardec costs are a non issue. So if you're hoping it'll act as some sort of shield, you might wanna rethink that

And that's only the start of what's wrong with this mechanic

It does not reward fair gameplay, and yeah, EvE isn't fair. At some point though, there has to be checks and balances. You would not put in a module or ship without some sort of counter to it. Yet if this goes through, you've just been perfectly willing to put in an entire unbalanced system without any sort of obstacle to keep it from being abused. At the fanfest panel you said you don't want to try and balance it toward edge cases, you've also said you're constantly surprised by how players use features to grief each other. Trust me, someone keeping a war going for lulz isn't an edge case with the current amount of money in the game. It's going to happen, and it's going to happen a lot. With the defending side having no way out of it

So maybe, could you please sit down with a few of the money men and ask them what sort of amounts you'd need for it to truly be a deterrent, keeping in mind the reason we make the money is to pew people in the face, so we're probably willing to pay a constant tax to do it. And after they quote a nice astronomically high number.. rethink this whole thing.

Maybe wardecs should follow the players as well as the corporation? If a player hops corps, the player is still a valid target for the wardec, and can also assist and be assisted by people in the war. The members of the players new corp/alliance wouldn't get kill rights on the enemy ship, but aiding the members ship could trigger kill rights and that could escalate like anything else.

I agree that it shuld be something like this. Difference in size should be taken in consideration when calculating price.

Only big corp and alliances will be happy with your solution. Corp should wardec other corp with aprox. same size or larger. Other way around is only about harrasment nothing else.

Wait what? You mean to tell me that you did something this awesome and didn't make a special blog post about it?!?!

-Liang

I'm not talking about your choice on becoming a miner, I'm talking about your choice on being defenseless. You can be anything you want in this game that you so choose, including helpless and at the mercy of others. The choice is yours.