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EVE PLAYERS - A call for Issler Dainze to step down from CSM7

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Habaticus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2012-04-26 15:06:05 UTC
Long be the reign of Issler! Hear hear.

All my accts are 3+ years and I'm still in NPC Corp. Get me out of the corp, but keep me solo :)
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-04-26 17:07:25 UTC
48387 voters did not vote for The Mittani. That is 82.79% of eve voters.

People need to deal with the fact that they voted for who they voted for. It's the voters' fault if they person they voted for to represent them isn't up to snuff like they expected.
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-04-28 12:09:43 UTC
Please stay on topic, "Spikeflach", this thread is clearly about Issler Dainze and not any other CSM member. I hope you will bear this in mind in future postings.
Max Essen
Bison Industrial Inc
#84 - 2012-04-28 13:14:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Essen
OP - guess that's your opinion.
No support.
Time to let it go and move on.
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-04-29 04:07:44 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
Please stay on topic, "Spikeflach", this thread is clearly about Issler Dainze and not any other CSM member. I hope you will bear this in mind in future postings.


I apologize if my post looks off topic.

I'm just trying to draw parallels to the people insisting one CSM member has the ultimate say in many subjects when in fact each member that is in the CSM is voted in to represent the people who voted for them not to represent the entire eve population. Much like how a democratic system works.
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#86 - 2012-04-29 13:36:42 UTC
Spikeflach wrote:
I'm just trying to draw parallels to the people insisting one CSM member has the ultimate say in many subjects when in fact each member that is in the CSM is voted in to represent the people who voted for them not to represent the entire eve population. Much like how a democratic system works.


Could you also refrain from run-on sentences? They're really obtuse.
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-04-29 16:12:19 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
Spikeflach wrote:
I'm just trying to draw parallels to the people insisting one CSM member has the ultimate say in many subjects when in fact each member that is in the CSM is voted in to represent the people who voted for them not to represent the entire eve population. Much like how a democratic system works.


Could you also refrain from run-on sentences? They're really obtuse.


Again, I apologize. I am not an English major. When my thoughts are rolling, I don't always get my grammar and punctuation correct. If you are unable to comprehend what I have typed, I will gladly fix any errors. I want to be sure those that read what I typed can understand what I am saying.

Thanks for your input. I will work harder to be better at typing.
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-04-29 17:51:28 UTC
Spikeflach wrote:
[quote=VCBee 180]Again, I apologize. I am not an English major. When my thoughts are rolling, I don't always get my grammar and punctuation correct. If you are unable to comprehend what I have typed, I will gladly fix any errors. I want to be sure those that read what I typed can understand what I am saying.

Thanks for your input. I will work harder to be better at typing.


Apologies, I never realised you were American; your poor english is to be expected.
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#89 - 2012-04-29 19:22:13 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
Spikeflach wrote:
[quote=VCBee 180]Again, I apologize. I am not an English major. When my thoughts are rolling, I don't always get my grammar and punctuation correct. If you are unable to comprehend what I have typed, I will gladly fix any errors. I want to be sure those that read what I typed can understand what I am saying.

Thanks for your input. I will work harder to be better at typing.


Apologies, I never realised you were American; your poor english is to be expected.


yeah, hehe. I always seem to get complaints from the hordes of UK types that play this game. Their use of the English language is just as confusing to me as my use of the English language is confusing to them.
Amarauya
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#90 - 2012-05-05 03:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarauya
I founded Tadakastu-Obata Corporation with Issler Dainze 5 years ago. We started in Eve a year after GoonFleet, but will be here a lot longer. We are not driven by the egos of a few, likeThe Mittani. Why else would goonwaffe, a corporation of over 3000, declare war against a corporation of 170? They are not going to increase their kill ratios, they won't gain any ISK. And, we are not going anywhere. We have been through very long wars, lost few ships and stayed intact.

I spoke to a Goonwaffe player right after the wardec became a shooting war. He did not know what the war was about. He did not know who Issler Dainze was. He was clueless. What kind of leader is The Mittani, if he can't keep his people informed about basic things like a war? The Mittani could care less about his corp members. They are all just fodder for his ego.

Eve needs to be a place for all types of players. If The Mittani has his way we will all be marching like mindless drones to his self aggrandizing monotony.

He needs to grow up and share the sandbox , with the other kids.

I am quite fortunate to know Issler both in game and out. She is a great leader, knows Eve and knows what this game needs
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-05-05 09:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Amarauya wrote:
I founded Tadakastu-Obata Corporation with Issler Dainze 5 years ago. We started in Eve a year after GoonFleet, but will be here a lot longer. We are not driven by the egos of a few, likeThe Mittani. Why else would goonwaffe, a corporation of over 3000, declare war against a corporation of 170? They are not going to increase their kill ratios, they won't gain any ISK. And, we are not going anywhere. We have been through very long wars, lost few ships and stayed intact.

I spoke to a Goonwaffe player right after the wardec became a shooting war. He did not know what the war was about. He did not know who Issler Dainze was. He was clueless. What kind of leader is The Mittani, if he can't keep his people informed about basic things like a war? The Mittani could care less about his corp members. They are all just fodder for his ego.

Eve needs to be a place for all types of players. If The Mittani has his way we will all be marching like mindless drones to his self aggrandizing monotony.

He needs to grow up and share the sandbox , with the other kids.

I am quite fortunate to know Issler both in game and out. She is a great leader, knows Eve and knows what this game needs

I don't care about their personal conflict. What I care about is that The Mittani has had a positive effect on the CSM itself and Issler hasn't. Mittani is also more likely to support the changes that I would like to see, compared to a 0% chance with Issler. Neither the goons or whatever your corp is called have any effect on me personally outside price manipulation and the CSM. I do, however, see Mittani is by far the lesser of two evils. For my personal playstyle there's a 0% chance of anything good coming from Issler being on the CSM and a high likelihood of it causing trouble for me in the worst case scenario or making the devs work on something I don't care about in the best case scenario. I also think Issler's conduct after fanfest was shameful and disgusting. I very much support any and all anti-Issler sentiment, including that expressed by the OP.

Issler Dainze wrote:
I was elected to bring attention to the most common activity in Eve, mining. Good luck making the case that providing the miners of Eve a voice would cause trouble and warrant my removal

I don't have a problem with miners getting game improvements that help them, but the only "improvements" I ever see them ask for is more hard coded protection. I'm fully in favor of hulks getting a tanking buff and mining being made more fun. I'm not in favor of 99% of the requests by miners, which are for CCP intervention in other people's playstyles because the miner can't be bothered not to be constantly AFK or to actually learn to play the game. So yes, providing the miners a voice does cause a whole lot of trouble when all that voice ever asks for is WoW style PvP disabled zones and various other forms of destruction of other playstyles.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2012-05-05 09:42:11 UTC
Amarauya wrote:
Eve needs to be a place for all types of players. If The Mittani has his way we will all be marching like mindless drones to his self aggrandizing monotony.

He needs to grow up and share the sandbox , with the other kids.


If there was ever a sign that you and your ilk are completely out of touch with Eve, it's telling Mittens that he needs to get along with even more people while the rest of the game derides us for getting along with far too many people.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["