Jita Park Speakers Corner

I'm calling for a ccp to push the reset button on the csm elections, my reasoning for this is:
Not only has CCP decided to (At my last check) totally remove The Mittani from the csm, certain other csm members have shown what they truely feel, and that's something i no longer want on the csm, mittens got two of my votes, and as he also got the most votes, by a good 10 thousand i believe, i feel one of two things should happen.

Either, alex (the mittani) should be given his seat back on the CSM, doesnt need to be as chairman however he earned his place on the council and one silly drunken act shouldnt affect his csm seat this seriously, you're also harming and annoying the playerbase with this by making votes effectivly useless

or there should be a total reset of the council, starting from the post-elections where each account had one vote on the actual seats, in which the mattani should be given the chance to be re-elected as a csm member, if thats what the playerbase choose, thats what happens.

CCP has upset a number of people with this, and not everyone is going to be happy no matter the outcome, however lets not go back to jita riots, because i can honestly say the knock-on effect this is going to have will make jita riots looks like a playground tantrum compaired to what this could cause

thank you for putting up with my horrible spelling and grammar, and i hope to see the peoples thoughts and opinions on this matter



Thank you

Goon hate - check
Bad comparison to RL politics - check
"u mad bro" - check

Yeah, your post is a breath of fresh air. Go thrill yourself IRL.

This may be WAY too soon. But... No one called for a new vote when kennedy was shot and his VP took office. I dont think we need a rovote here. The man had his chance and blew it on alcohol and cigars. Tough luck for everyone who voted for him.

I really think many of you gamers need to understand the difference between right and privilege.

We dont have enough comparisons to RL politics ITT. I call on ye bad poasters of lore to deliver.

REVOTE AND LET THE TEN THOUSAND HAVE THEIR SAY.

All of you idiots comparing it to real life politics are conveniently ignoring the fact an impeached (or dead) president has someone take his place from his own party who covers the voters interest. Does this mean The Mittani will be able to name someone who'll take his place?

Fully supported.

Seriously though, I do agree that there needs to be a re-vote. A lot of voters are feeling extremely disenfranchised right now. Throw them a bone. Allow a vote for the new CSM chairman at the very least, although I honestly do think the entire election has been invalidated at this point.

And since we're all inevitably comparing it to real life politics anyway, note the highly disparate views of the candidates in the CSM versus the relatively harmonized views of party members in real elections.

A better real-life analogy for what's happened here would be having the Republicans elected as a slight majority in the house/senate, then a Republican president gets impeached, and so it is decided that as a result the entire Republican party is banned. Then what happens is all the Republican seats will be given to the Democrats, and all the Democrats old seats will be given to the Green Party. How do you like that?

You can't just go down the list like that and promote the next person, it's asinine. It's even more asinine when you take the vote totals into consideration, which you must. Replacing someone who got 10,000 votes with someone who got less than half that, maybe less than a quarter of that, is incredibly unfair and will completely destroy the legitimacy of the CSM.

We just got finished with a highly successful expansion, and now CCP is in danger of dismantling the very system that made that happen while simultaneously alienating 10,000 of their most vocal players. Must we always be in a situation of one step forward, one step back? (no pun intended, Two step)

Mittani's child army is currently terrorizing the country of Uganda, stealing children and subjugating them to his will. We need people like YOU to act now to stop these war crimes. ARREST MITTENS 2012!

its not like the csm has fully been installed and started up yet, i mean the forum still have the old csm's with the tags and the new ones without, there was and is even still some people in iceland from fanfest, my point is the CSM has barely (if at all) started, and already a major part of it has been blown, this is turning the forums into something like the microtransactions again, only this time there are two camps.









I support this at least.

I can pretty much guarantee that any Re-Vote would mean even more total votes for The Mittani.

While what he did was to be frowned upon, if you cannot see the good he did for EVE over the last year alone, the way he leads his alliance and their style of gameplay which is 100% within the limits of the game, and the fact that he has to balance 3 different "people" in the mix of things, (which I dare 99% of EVE players to try and do without making a mistake covered by so many eyes looking only for that split in the armor) then you really have no idea what really goes on within the Culture of EVE, real life, and within such a unique alliance.

I don't have the sleep to go into detail right now, but overall when CSM8 comes around, and Alex is allowed to run again. I can pretty much guarantee he will be back in the Hot Seat and we will be back here seeing the players come out of the wood work to start a riot once again about matters they do not fully understand.

The one thing that would be cool is to see some of the CSM7 really step up and continue with what The Mittani started. Time will tell here.



The Mittani, take a break, enjoy some CEO time and wrecking havoc as per usual, and be prepared for what may lay ahead next year. I feel it may be even more substantial than holding a seat this year...



*(and to anyone who thinks I’m just another Goonie Alt Mittani Supporter, I actually voted for Trebor since I do like the Technical aspects of EVE that he covers, but Mittani is definitely the main guy as far as leadership is concerned and anyone who actually means anything on CSM, realizes that. Can the flag be held and moved by others with him gone, we shall see...

As a Testie Pubbie Goon pet pointed out, nearly 20% of the players voted for Kittens, which means the remaining voters didn't.

I would say that the remaining voters are pretty happy with the results so the majority wins.