Jita Park Speakers Corner

Today was a day eagerly anticipated by some, dreddit by most and feared by those frequently testing the EULA/TOS waters.

CCP did something awful and assassinated the Chairman in the grey zone of EVE online. They took one instance and used it to prepare the firing squad. Publicising only the decision and not the reasoning behind it, hiding in the murky depths of unpublicised decision making.

Crippling the democratic process they claim to hold in high regard by venting themselves of the most powerful public figure in all of EVE backed by a landslide win.

I call shenanigans on CCP for intervening in the democratic process.

I do so having frequently asked for EULA clarifications and often receiving only useless dust incarnate. I do so having personally experienced a 30 day ban on my person being overturned because I was deep in the EULA grey zone. I do so fully aware of the fallacy that is the closed process of assessing behaviour and the in game boundaries thereof.

Furthermore, I asses that, while “The Mittani” is eligible for a 30 day ban the person behind this account, the person elected to the office of CSM 7, can in no way, shape or form be held accountable for the actions of his online alter ego in any way. The CCP requirement of entering a real person (by the submission of real life personal details) into the CSM election cements this duality in place. Furthermore, “The Alliance Panel” is a place where the speakers are in character as opposed to being their natural persona.

If CCP chooses to uphold this venting of the Chairman, this public assassination of their best critic, they open the floodgates to in game alter egos being equated to their real life persona. This will snowball into every EVE alter ego suddenly being your real identity and thus liable in the broadest sense of the word.

It merges the game world with the real world and thus equates in game actions to real world actions.

It will destroy the EVE we hold dear.

Please like if you would prefer your alter ego's actions stay in game.

Dense poster spotted for just noticing one reference.

Where is the link from CCP that they banned him?

Now, all this situation has been extremely riddickolous but this is just fearmongering.

No more wizard for the CSM chair? Preposterous.

Perhaps next time he'll dress as a cleric.

And as of a few moments ago, CCP has dissapeared any and all sticky posts relating to the CSM 7 election and, more importantly, it's results.

Swept under the rug, as it were.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88471&find=unread

It is a valid point, we all agree to both rated and unrated content as it's generated by the sandbox.

I have yet to see CCP draw a clear line in the sandbox seperating the permissible from the bannable offences in the grey zone not specificly governed by the EULA. Refering to the TOS is a copout that shows weakness of argument.

Accountability is the measure of any governing body. Determening what is and is not "relevant" is cencorship and detrimental to the democratic process.

*Insert generic dictatorial salute*

So you want CCP, or any other MMO for that matter, to try and come up with every single possible eventuality and then list them in their EULA/TOS?

Great posting, please do not ever stop

The only mistake CCP did was not put the following at the end of the Devblog...


We do not hate you, we do this because

WE LOVE YOU

No, sir. What I would like is open and frank communication on decisionmaking. CCP is using blanket bans prohibiting communicating GM decisionmaking to incourage a grey zone that allows them to hide lacklustre decisionmaking and failed process.

Unless you can quote me a GM decision that was well reasoned out and sounded remotely plausible...oh, wait, you aren't allowed to discuss that.

Then please point me to where CCP explains what he did wrong. I have read the entire GM Salmon statement and can find only insinuation and inuendo, not a clear statement of what exactly was in breach of EULA/TOS. We deserve specifics and insight into the decisionmaking process that eliminates a broad voter base from being represented.



CCP knew what was to be presented, was ok with it and only after days of absolutely nothing someone takes offence? The time between act and decision alone shows CCP has no clue on where the line is and has decided to draw it randomly at their convenience.