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Disenfranchised Voters
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Stafford Hollis
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2012-03-28 23:04:42 UTC
With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.
Eli Grange
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-28 23:20:15 UTC
I heartily agree, The Mittani chaired the most successful CSM and ushered in a new age of prosperity for EVE, improving the outlook for CCP, and how do they repay him?

By banning him for a month and kicking him off the CSM, caving to pressure applied by a political opponent, using an off the cuff drunken comment outside of the game which isn't even covered by the TOS

The kicker is that the person mentioned doesn't even remember making the mail that was read at fanfest, because it was nothing more than a sob story written to try and stop people from ganking his mackinaw fleets,

This mail, which pop psychologists jumped on as proof of anything at all, is completely contrary to the fact that people with heavy depression do not project.

This is downright robbery and political backstabbing by a small person with the intellect of Riverini
Domwav II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-28 23:27:10 UTC
When 16% of people vote for a candidate (and the second highest candidate is less than half of that, if the winner is disqualified before the start of term, I do believe a revote is in order. Mittani was the beacon of hope that brought us through the Incarna Affair. 16% of all votes are about to be thrown out because of a comment made in a, frankly, public and informal setting? This is great insult to all of us who took the time to vote.
Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-03-28 23:32:53 UTC
I agree. There are 10,000 pod pilots now who have no voice in the CSM.

20% of the people who voted - ie, 20% of the people who take part in the community and give a **** about Eve.
Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-03-28 23:35:06 UTC
No, we don't count, because a small but loud minority don't like us and were able to generate a lot of bad press. Clearly our votes shouldn't be counted.
Infinimo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-03-28 23:37:31 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/8q5Pt.jpg

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Neilrac
#7 - 2012-03-28 23:39:16 UTC
**** this i voted for him. Get him the **** in againg
Macon Chalaise
VNM Biological Survey Corps
#8 - 2012-03-29 04:07:05 UTC
Stafford Hollis wrote:
With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.


Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US.

He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote."

True story.

Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-03-29 04:10:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon Azrakel
Macon Chalaise wrote:
Stafford Hollis wrote:
With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.


Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US.

He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote."

True story.


And then his running-mate took over. And that was, who now for Mittens?

EDIT: Did Nixon step down before assuming office? Just wondering, kinda fuzzy on my history.
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-03-29 04:11:36 UTC
Can we please have more comparisons to RL politics on the forums? There aren't enough. All of you who make these terrible comparisons should seriously thrill yourselves IRL.
Allandi
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-03-29 04:18:07 UTC
Your vote was placed, it was counted. It counts still. It counted long enough for the guy you spent it on to waste it for you.

Don't blame CCP that you spent it on someone who immediately got himself thrown out by not stopping to think. Blame the guy that actually wasted it.
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-29 04:24:34 UTC
Allandi wrote:
Your vote was placed, it was counted. It counts still. It counted long enough for the guy you spent it on to waste it for you.

Don't blame CCP that you spent it on someone who immediately got himself thrown out by not stopping to think. Blame the guy that actually wasted it.

No, my vote is now uncounted. Maybe now that Mittens has been removed from CSM due to CCP's face saving, I'd put that vote toward someone else. 10000 votes matter and if you throw them out, then might as well not even have a vote or the institution that was voted for.
Macon Chalaise
VNM Biological Survey Corps
#13 - 2012-03-29 04:51:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Macon Chalaise
Demon Azrakel wrote:
Macon Chalaise wrote:
Stafford Hollis wrote:
With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.


Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US.

He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote."

True story.


And then his running-mate took over. And that was, who now for Mittens?

EDIT: Did Nixon step down before assuming office? Just wondering, kinda fuzzy on my history.


He was about two years into his term.

Two step should get the chair and UAxDEATH move to #7. (Had Hans going to review my ordinals...><)

Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast
Dovinian
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2012-03-29 10:39:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dovinian
Macon Chalaise wrote:
He was about two years into his term.

Two step should get the chair and Hans move to #7.

UAxDEATH would move into #7, not Hans.
Josef Djugashvilis
#15 - 2012-03-29 11:07:47 UTC
Perhaps it is time for mittens to consider his position in the Goons.

He, and he alone, is responsible for the Goon votes given to him being null and void.

Oh, how many Goons have rage quit? not many I'll wager.


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Frying Doom
#16 - 2012-03-29 11:15:28 UTC
You voted and lets be honest you got what you voted for.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Aggressive Feeding
#17 - 2012-03-29 11:54:42 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
You voted and lets be honest you got what you voted for.



And we were concern with it,but then some pubbies decided that its good time for old good witch hunt and white-knighting and stole it from us

:true story bro:
Woo Glin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-29 11:57:35 UTC
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:



And we were concern with it,but then some pubbies decided that its good time for old good witch hunt and white-knighting and stole it from us

:true story bro:


Quoting this before you edit it.
Real Poison
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-03-29 12:02:29 UTC
a revote so goons can install someone as Mitten's muppet? lulz!
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#20 - 2012-03-29 12:14:40 UTC
If he had been booted off the CSM I might be inclined to agree with a re-vote of some sort.

But by the looks of it, Mittens stepped down on his own. I don't think it was necessary but I guess he did.

Then again, nobody got to re-vote when Ankhenstinkapalooza or Larkonis were removed. Why would we re-vote when a member steps down?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
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