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Regarding the CSM7 Chairmanship:

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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#461 - 2012-03-28 23:24:08 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:

In other words, he's mad now?

I would be mad about my stupidity after I saw the video the next day (and be ashamed to see me drunken but some guys might find this funny).

But to be honest, a ban to the char "The Mittani" ... it's a sign but nothing else. Anyone belive he has just one acc as leader of the GOONs and long term over vet? :)

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

Ceptia Cyna
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#462 - 2012-03-28 23:27:28 UTC
Quote:
As some of you might have heard, one of the Alliance leaders speaking at the Alliance Panel during EVE Fanfest 2012 breached our EULA/TOS with some ill-advised remarks about a fellow EVE player. It goes without saying that CCP deeply regrets this incident and will work towards reducing any possibility of this happening again in the future.

CCP requested that all panel PowerPoint presentations and discussion topics be handed in beforehand for approval. Regrettably, the offending comments were made during an unscripted Q&A session after the main presentations.

Following a thorough internal review CCP has decided to respond to this clear violation of our Terms of Service and wholly inappropriate use of the Alliance Panel. According to our existing policies, we have issued a 30 day ban from EVE Online to the panel speaker.

The policy of CCP is not to publicly discuss warnings and bans on an individual basis. This situation is entirely unique because the panel was displayed via CCP’s Fanfest video stream component, a platform analogous to our forums. As a result we have published this statement due to the special circumstances involved. However, our policy remains that we will not publicly discuss warnings and bans.

The panelist has subsequently posted a public apology as well as a private apology to the victim of his attack. He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7. As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review.

The Council of Stellar Management is a democratically elected council that represents the players of EVE Online. Although council members may represent the players in any manner they choose, being a council member does not permit actions or playstyles that violate our policies.

GM Salmon

VP of Customer Relationship Management


http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28576

Quote:
He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7


CCP hast just expelled him from the current CSM completely.
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#463 - 2012-03-28 23:27:35 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that.

[...]

I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman.


Good on you for admitting that you ****** up and realizing that being the leader of the Swarm conflicts with being CSM Chairman. I'm no goon, but this is definitely something I can respect as a WH dweller.

No matter what others (like Darius III) say, don't step down from the CSM. EVE needs you and the nullsec nutcases who voted for you deserve to have the representative they want, and not the representative that carebears think the nullsec bloc should have.

Again, man, I commend you for giving up the power you had as Chairman so you can represent your people and play the game the way your need to, without your actions ingame reflecting poorly upon the CSM, CCP, and the EVE community.

Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave

Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#464 - 2012-03-28 23:30:08 UTC
I am not "happy" that any part of of this mess occured. I wish Mittens had not have made such a fool of himself. However, a 30 day ban from EVE Online and complete removal from CSM 7 seems like a fitting punishment in view of the violation. I am satisfied and can't accuse CCP of favortism or corruption in the matter if it holds true. It was a punishment they issued in light of their own rules. I figure select members of the CSM are reeling just a little bit. If nothing else, I can say I am glad some of this can be put to rest.

Sure, I can't ever fly near goon space with this character. lol... But in spite of any harsh seeming words it wasn't ever that kind of personal. Unless you've ever been targeted by that type of attack in real life I doubt you could ever get it. Stuff like that has no place in gaming. Hoepfully, it'll straighten him up and remind him of why it's a game and should stay that way rather than bleeding into real life so much.

Good luck with the next election Mittens. And that's not stated mockingly.
Charles Case
State War Academy
Caldari State
#465 - 2012-03-28 23:32:59 UTC
Darius iii you are a ****** of massive proportions fyi
KSUDruid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#466 - 2012-03-28 23:35:03 UTC
Grogoth Drem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#467 - 2012-03-28 23:38:42 UTC
THIS WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL FOR YOU

(in game)
Reaith
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#468 - 2012-03-28 23:40:58 UTC
Lol.

If it would have been anyone but the "douchey". That persona woulda been perma banned.

Lolz at the goonie tears.

Moar tearz plz!

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#469 - 2012-03-28 23:41:06 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I hear the fat lady warming up, but she hasn't started to sing yet. This is not over by any means.

Mr Epeen Cool


Now she's singing.

Mr Epeen Cool
Neilrac
#470 - 2012-03-28 23:41:19 UTC
~10058~

That is all.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#471 - 2012-03-28 23:45:13 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
KSUDruid wrote:


Nice :P

Neilrac wrote:
~10058~

That is all.


Apparently it doesn't matter how many votes he has now that CCP has booted him from the CSM entirely.

Though I'm still a bit confused as to what exactly happened... CSM & The Mittani announce that he will be handing off the chair to another CSM. (but staying on the csm right?)

Then the CCP post that Mittani has been removed from the CSM entirely and received a 30 day ban?
Ebon Rue
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#472 - 2012-03-28 23:47:44 UTC
Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow.

...this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.


Proof that this is a fact and not your subjective opinion? Oh? You can't prove that? Then STFU and stop pretending you think or even speak for the rest of us.
Skilfer Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#473 - 2012-03-28 23:50:52 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Skilfer Azizora wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Skilfer Azizora wrote:
I just hate when people who actually have the power to make game-changing decisions are complete dumbarses.

Oh that's completely to be expected.

But D3 is clearly like god's gift to eve and knows everything we need.

Oh yes, clearly. Well I can assure you one thing, he will not be the new Chairman.

It'll be Xenuria or .. Riverini right?

Or the miner


It could very well be any of them, but Darius has demonstrated his incompetence and lack of maturity, and I full-heartedly believe the CSM as well as CCP will take note of that when selecting a replacement for the Chairman position.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#474 - 2012-03-28 23:51:29 UTC
Skilfer Azizora wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Skilfer Azizora wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Skilfer Azizora wrote:
I just hate when people who actually have the power to make game-changing decisions are complete dumbarses.

Oh that's completely to be expected.

But D3 is clearly like god's gift to eve and knows everything we need.

Oh yes, clearly. Well I can assure you one thing, he will not be the new Chairman.

It'll be Xenuria or .. Riverini right?

Or the miner


It could very well be any of them, but Darius has demonstrated his incompetence and lack of maturity, and I full-heartedly believe the CSM as well as CCP will take note of that when selecting a replacement for the Chairman position.


Not so sure that any of them want to be chair. ;)
Razgriz Shaishi
Perkone
Caldari State
#475 - 2012-03-28 23:55:31 UTC
Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.

I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.

Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.

Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.

In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.

PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.


Most immature comment Ive ever seen anywhere on these forums. Nice job taking fullest advantage of another person's political mistake like the leech you seem to be.
Skilfer Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#476 - 2012-03-28 23:58:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Skilfer Azizora
JC wrote:


Not so sure that any of them want to be chair. ;)


Haha! They do not have to want it, but I am sure whoever it is will accept it if not purely for the honor/title.
Wukulo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#477 - 2012-03-28 23:58:59 UTC
Who are you and why do you think your opinion matters? Mittani actually has a track record of pushing the CSM to do something other than being a lame duck and you're here going on about how you're ashamed of him and talking about hating goons?

YOU and CSM seats like you are why I want Mittani in charge. You've made this about in-game politics and rivalries while he's talking from a personal stand point.

He talked some trash and it happen to catch the public eye. I've seen things 1,000 times worse said in game the only difference is that there were no mic's around and no one cared.

Everyone is totally ignoring the things that's done well. Goon or not.

Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.

I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.

Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.

Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.

In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.

PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.

Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you.

HezzyUK
Aegis Victorium
The Initiative.
#478 - 2012-03-28 23:59:22 UTC
"10,058" - The Mittani ft. Vile Rat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNM8uDapgU

So what am I not supposed to have an opinion
Should I keep quiet just because I'm the Mittani
Call me a ***** cuz I speak what's on my mind
Guess it's easier for you to swallow if I sat and smiled

When the Mittani fires back
Suddenly big talker don't know how to act
So he does what any little Darius will do
Making up a few false rumors or two

That for sure is not a man to me
Slanderin' names for popularity
It's sad you only get your fame through controversy
But now it's time for me to come and give you more to say

This is for my goons all around the world
Who've come across a man that don't respect your worth
Thinking all gooners should be seen, not heard
So what do we do goons?
Shout out loud!
Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground
So lift your hands high and wave them proud
Take a deep breath and say it loud
Never can, never will, can't hold us down

Nobody can hold us down
Nobody can hold us down
Nobody can hold us down
Never can, never will

So what am I not supposed to say what I'm saying
Are you offended with the message I'm bringing
Call me whatever cuz your words don't mean a thing
Guess you ain't a bit of man enough to handle what I sing

If you look back in history
It's a common double standard of society
The guy gets all the glory the more he can score
While the goon can do the same and yet you call him a griefer

I don't understand why it's okay
The guy can get away with it & the goonl gets named
All my goonies come together and make a change
Start a new beginning for us everybody sing

This is for my goons all around the world
Who've come across a man who don't respect your worth
Thinking all gooners should be seen, not heard
What do we do goons?
Shout out loud!

Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground
Lift your hands high and wave 'em proud
Take a deep breath and say it loud
Never can, never will, can't hold us down

Vile Rat:
Here's something I just can't understand
If the guy can break NDA then he's the man
He can either give us some grief, **** us off
If a goon does the same, then he's a griefer
But the table's about to turn
I'll bet my fame on it
Cats take my ideas and put their name on it
It's aiight though, you can't hold me down
I got to keep on movin'
To all my goons with a pubbie who be giving us flak
Do it right back to him and let that be that
You need to let him know that his game is whack
And Vile Rat and The Mittani got your back

But you're just a little boy
Think you're so cute, so coy
You must talk so big
To make up for smaller things
So you're just a little boy
All you'll do is annoy
You must talk so big
To make up for smaller things

This is for my goons...
This is for my goons all around the world
Who've come across a pubbie who don't respect your worth
Thinking The Mittani should be seen, not heard
So what do we do goons?
Shout out loud!
Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground
Lift your hands high and wave 'em proud
Take a deep breath and say it loud
Never can, never will, can't hold us down

This is for my goons all around the world
Who've come across a pubbie who don't respect your worth
Thinking The Mittani should be seen, not heard
So what do we do goons?
Shout out loud!
Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground
Lift your hands high and wave 'em proud
Take a deep breath and say it loud
Never can, never will, can't hold us down
Spread the word, LET JITA BURN
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#479 - 2012-03-29 00:01:32 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/SbKxBl.jpg

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Liaria Cullen
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#480 - 2012-03-29 00:03:18 UTC
As someone Who openly felt that alex's behaviour was highly out of order, and also feel that although his stepping down is actually unneeded and should never have been pushed this far, it should certainly help. I'm not a religeous man however i believe theres a quote in the bible which fits here nicely "let he that is without sin cast the first stone". You're all condeming "The Mittani" for an action that "alex" (i'm not going to try spell your second name, appologies) Did at fanfest while drunk, and while surounded by friends and in a situation where everyone was happy, and giddy. I'm not saying this makes it right, but it certainly help's explain. you've all did stupid ****, anyone who says they havent did something they highly regret whilst drunk is a liar, he's openly admitted what he's done was wrong and is taking steps on his own to try fix the situation. i don't feel a ingame ban is fair for an action that was done out of game while at fanfest, it's like jailing someone in real life for a crime in eve. i honestly done think it matters anyway, the ceo of goonswarm is unlikely to have only one account, and all this is only really going to appease to the masses of idiots that have been annoyed by the mittani in the past.

In any case, i look forward to an unshackled goonswarm. Cant wait to see how the carebears and idiots pay for this.
Good luck in future Alex and as a player and a person, i hope this doesn't affect you too much, if anything truely can peirce that heart of coal of yours.