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Regarding the CSM7 Chairmanship:

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#301 - 2012-03-28 22:03:48 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
And it's not that many have 1 or 2 chars in 00-ally for pewpew-fun but 4 to 10 acc outside of this ally?

I remember one topic where a guy claimed to be "GOON PvP player" but statted, that he uses 1 acc for GOON but run 14 (!!) accounts in highsec for trade/hauler/PI/indu/..
That's not the "normal" player, I know!

Over all I just take the middle. Some guys have just 1 acc with 3 chars all in GOONs. Other have 20 acc but just 1 char in GOONs. The middle might be 1:1 and then ... 10k still isn't realy impresive ;).

Meh, fair enough, highsec incursions and l4 missions are really awesome money for their risk, I see why (as goons ofc) we would want to abuse them as much as possible.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Piatora
Bad Investments ULC
Diplomatic Incidents.
#302 - 2012-03-28 22:04:06 UTC
Taihbea wrote:
David Carel wrote:
Taihbea wrote:
Seleene wrote:
This has been a difficult few days and Alex did not make this decision lightly. The next CSM has a lot of work ahead of it now. Mittens has helped shape the CSM into it's current form and I've no doubt he will help where he can as he always has. I am glad that he has taken this step so that we can all move forward to doing what the community elected us to do.


You're not getting my vote next year for supporting a cyberbully.


This just in: cyberbullying applies to grown people.

Can't handle society, go live in a cave.

I could care less about your double standards. Ever watched the bully show on MTV?
They always ******* cry in the end. How stupid you got to be not to realize this.

Anyway. My vote is my vote. This adoration panel ain't getting my support no more for being stupid.
As a CSM you look for community not your buddies. Fact.

Bunch of amateurs and it shows.


Did .... did you just say that you watched MTV ..... and use it to make your point about something real? I thought MTV was the domain of girls in their teens, not respectable spaceship pilots.
Jonatan Reed
Wildcard.
Boundary Experts
#303 - 2012-03-28 22:04:08 UTC
Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.

I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.

Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.

Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.

In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.

PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.


**** off Darius the Dickhead.

ELITE PVP, WHADDUP

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#304 - 2012-03-28 22:04:38 UTC
Andski wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Read it again and it seems to me that it is to lead the Goons to cause further mayhem in the cold harsh place that is Eve.

What's wrong with that?

We approve.

Pubbies disapprove. Their tangible desire for a dislike button is growing.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

None ofthe Above
#305 - 2012-03-28 22:04:38 UTC
So Alex/Mittens,

Am I correct in deciphering that you feel that your actions where unworthy of Chair of the CSM, but perfectly fine for a member of the CSM? Am I reading that right?

Just trying to follow your logic.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#306 - 2012-03-28 22:04:44 UTC
Daviclond wrote:
Reminder that Darius III is the CSM rep with the least number of votes, and nearly an order of magnitude less votes than The Mittani

(also he leaked NDA-covered information to a 3rd party eve fan site)


TWICE.

Why didn't CCP do anything? Ban Darius III from the CSM.

... wait, Riverini was #11, wasn't he? ****.

Quick guys, lesser of two evils?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#307 - 2012-03-28 22:04:47 UTC
Daviclond wrote:
Reminder that Darius III is the CSM rep with the least number of votes, and nearly an order of magnitude less votes than The Mittani

(also he leaked NDA-covered information to a 3rd party eve fan site)


I think the NDA thing pales in comparison to him using a sick person to further his own personal vendetta against The Mittani. Leaking some information about a video game is pretty tame compared to actually using another person's pain to get yourself ahead in said video game.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Signal Error
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#308 - 2012-03-28 22:04:53 UTC
Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.

I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.

Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.

Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.




Jita will now suffer from your insolence and political greed. The blood of freighters and capsules will be upon your hands. I hope you can live with yourself Darius, this is all your doing.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#309 - 2012-03-28 22:05:24 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
So Alex/Mittens,

Am I correct in deciphering that you feel that your actions where unworthy of Chair of the CSM, but perfectly fine for a member of the CSM? Am I reading that right?

Just trying to follow your logic.


You're obviously not smart enough to do so, so I suggest you stop before the inevitable aneurysm.
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#310 - 2012-03-28 22:05:31 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Jojo Jackson wrote:

And it's not that many have 1 or 2 chars in 00-ally for pewpew-fun but 4 to 10 acc outside of this ally?

I remember one topic where a guy claimed to be "GOON PvP player" but statted, that he uses 1 acc for GOON but run 14 (!!) accounts in highsec for trade/hauler/PI/indu/..
That's not the "normal" player, I know!

Over all I just take the middle. Some guys have just 1 acc with 3 chars all in GOONs. Other have 20 acc but just 1 char in GOONs. The middle might be 1:1 and then ... 10k still isn't realy impresive ;).


That's a whole lot of a semi-literate monkey babble right here folks.

Oh, is this an invite to GOONs? Do I hit the level? Pirate

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

The Crimson Invaider
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#311 - 2012-03-28 22:05:50 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
So Alex/Mittens,

Am I correct in deciphering that you feel that your actions where unworthy of Chair of the CSM, but perfectly fine for a member of the CSM? Am I reading that right?

Just trying to follow your logic.

Are CSM members not meant to play the game, and best represent the people who elected them?
Derrick Munroe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#312 - 2012-03-28 22:05:52 UTC
Xython wrote:
Daviclond wrote:
Reminder that Darius III is the CSM rep with the least number of votes, and nearly an order of magnitude less votes than The Mittani

(also he leaked NDA-covered information to a 3rd party eve fan site)


TWICE.

Why didn't CCP do anything? Ban Darius III from the CSM.

... wait, Riverini was #11, wasn't he? ****.

Quick guys, lesser of two evils?


Counter-point, Riverini and Mittani on the same CSM would be ******* hilarious.

What's it like, not owning any tech moons?

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#313 - 2012-03-28 22:05:59 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
So Alex/Mittens,

Am I correct in deciphering that you feel that your actions where unworthy of Chair of the CSM, but perfectly fine for a member of the CSM? Am I reading that right?

Just trying to follow your logic.


Glad you figured that out all on your own bro. Good work.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Merkato Okuloj
Doomheim
#314 - 2012-03-28 22:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Merkato Okuloj
Starting out in EVE as a carebear, I truly could not understand why destroying someone else's ship (my beautiful hulk!) was someone else's idea of a good time. I raged. I quit. I came back. I mined some more

Five+ years later, a ship is just a pile of trit to me. If I lose one, I get another. It's a game- pixels on the screen plus time. (My brother's deletion of my Final Fantasy VII saved game was far more traumatic. I think he'd make an excellent Goon.)

Time played in EVE is more than skill points accumulated. There has been a definite progression for me as a player from carebear to ganker and pvp'er. As an inexperienced player, the wider world of EVE was unknown and unfathomable. Even now I realize I am just beginning to grasp the bigger picture and the scope of the politics, as well as the refined abilities needed to play effectively

The above may sound meandering and laborious, but it has a point- not all players understand all aspects of the game. Without a certain degree of knowledge in some areas, the actions of others is inconceivable or even reprehensible

In this particular instance, as I watched the Fanfest stream live, my opinion of the panel shifted from amused to disgusted to simply bored. I felt no irritation or outrage at the language. I was amused at the ransom singing. Bored by corp charts, I would have liked more politics. I wasn't a fan of the drunk rambling, but that was because its rarely amusing to watch drunk people while sober. And in the end, I was amused by the Mittani's posting of the carebear tears his ganks produced. It never once occurred to me that anyone would send such a lengthy letter to their ganker if they were, in fact, suicidal. if you're depressed, why reach out to someone who has clearly demonstrated an obvious lack of caring? Instead, I assumed this letter was a troll-like plea, an utterly false attempt to reach whatever deep (DEEP) seated compassion his gankers might have, in a last-ditch attempt to earn compensation for his loss through guilt. I saw it along the same veins of "Please don't kill me, I have seven children to feed!

I am not now nor have I ever been a Goon pet, but I will admit to a certain level of respect for the accomplishments of the swarm. I do not hate or loathe them, nor do I despise any group or Alliance in EVE. Neither would I make excuses for them if I saw something truly offensive to me. As one player of the thousands in the game, I would simply like to say that if Mittani made a mistake, I believe his actions in declining the CSM chair is a respectable one in light of the firestorm and backlash caused by non-ganking pilots' lack of understanding of what passes for humor among gankers. Further resignation as a member of CSM would not be in the best interests of his constituents or the game as whole.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#315 - 2012-03-28 22:06:45 UTC
Signal Error wrote:
Jita will now suffer from your insolence and political greed. The blood of freighters and capsules will be upon your hands. I hope you can live with yourself Darius, this is all your doing.

That's what happens when you're as ~important~ and ~powerful~ as D3, your opportunistic sniping at a colossus above you might ruin everyone.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#316 - 2012-03-28 22:06:49 UTC
Signal Error wrote:

Jita will now suffer from your insolence and political greed. The blood of freighters and capsules will be upon your hands. I hope you can live with yourself Darius, this is all your doing.


Not to mention the real life person he took advantage of in all of this.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#317 - 2012-03-28 22:06:56 UTC
Yay! Step 2 at last! Cool

You get points for doing what you said you'd do. Not sure it changes my opinion on your fake apology but at least most people are happy now.

I particulary enjoyed skipping all the Goon responces. They always say the same things, so no need reading them!

Hopefully now the CSM can repair its reputation now and go on to represent EvE as a whole, and be a shiny beacon of example of the very finest EvE has to offer!

Yeah..... i don't believe it either, but stranger things have happened. Shocked

Two-Step for Chairman!!!

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#318 - 2012-03-28 22:07:04 UTC
The Crimson Invaider wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:
So Alex/Mittens,

Am I correct in deciphering that you feel that your actions where unworthy of Chair of the CSM, but perfectly fine for a member of the CSM? Am I reading that right?

Just trying to follow your logic.

Are CSM members not meant to play the game, and best represent the people who elected them?


Are CSM chairmans not meant to play the game, and best represent the people who elected them?

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Volgram
Jester's Fleet
Jester's Alliance
#319 - 2012-03-28 22:07:11 UTC
/salute

On the bright side, now that The Mittani is back to focusing all-out on his Alliance and his people, the wars in null sector should increase tenfold.

I hope all the nay sayers are prepared for this.

/popcorn



Valearx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#320 - 2012-03-28 22:07:37 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Jojo Jackson wrote:

And it's not that many have 1 or 2 chars in 00-ally for pewpew-fun but 4 to 10 acc outside of this ally?

I remember one topic where a guy claimed to be "GOON PvP player" but statted, that he uses 1 acc for GOON but run 14 (!!) accounts in highsec for trade/hauler/PI/indu/..
That's not the "normal" player, I know!

Over all I just take the middle. Some guys have just 1 acc with 3 chars all in GOONs. Other have 20 acc but just 1 char in GOONs. The middle might be 1:1 and then ... 10k still isn't realy impresive ;).


That's a whole lot of a semi-literate monkey babble right here folks.

Oh, is this an invite to GOONs? Do I hit the level? Pirate


You are phenomenally bad at trolling. Please stop.