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Regarding the CSM7 Chairmanship:

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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#261 - 2012-03-28 21:55:24 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Though I have received many letters of support (my inbox is full of these, and for them I thank you) and the major bloggers have called for me to remain on as Chair, there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that.

With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats.

As the leader of Goonswarm I must be willing to make ruthless decisions and take actions that many players find objectionable - griefing, ganking, scamming, 'dishonorable' fleet tactics, espionage, metagaming, blowing up everyone who tries to mine Gallente Ice, sponsoring Hulkageddon, et cetera - whatever it takes to defend my people in this, the most exceedingly hostile galaxy to grace the internet. As Darius JOHNSON, the previous Goonswarm leader once said, "[Goonswarm] is not here to destroy /the/ game, but /your/ game.

Yet as Chairman of the CSM and Alexander Gianturco, I need to put a good face on CCP's experimental player democracy and keep my nose clean. Inevitably, these two roles conflict with one another; when Goonswarm does what it does in EVE, this reflects on the CSM as a whole, purely due to my position as both Chairman and alliance leader. If I abandon the brutalist tactics of an alliance leader in hopes of keeping the CSM's image pristine, I hamstring my people ingame and do a disservice to the line members who rely on me. In addition, the enemies of Goonswarm assault the CSM and CCP itself unfairly due to the in-game actions of our alliance.

After the successful restructuring of CCP, I am convinced that most of the hard work of the CSM is already done - CCP is now focusing on spaceships instead of avatars, and the success of CSM6 has led to a solid and competent crop of player representatives in CSM7 with a much greater turnout, demonstrating ever-more faith and trust from the playerbase in the concept of the CSM. This changes things for the CSM, as well as the Chairman title

During Goonswarm's highly successful Gallente Ice Interdiction there were calls for my resignation as Chairman; those calls increased when Goonswarm began to use false supercap sales as a method of closing the gap between us and our in-game enemies' supercap fleets. We are now planning an attempt to destroy Jita itself. All of these actions are entirely legitimate within the brutal world of EVE, yet, in the coming months, if I continue to hold the title of Chairman, CCP will be enduring one PR nightmare after another as Goonswarm's in-game actions unfairly reflect back upon the CSM as a whole through the Chairman title. It is increasingly important that the Chair be a ‘good citizen’ in the game itself - and I cannot be a good citizen and simultaneously lead my alliance of magnificent bastards.

With CSM7's term beginning on April 4th, I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman. It will then be up to CSM7 as a group to decide how to proceed regarding the Chair. As a member of the CSM without a title, what I do as the leader of Goonswarm will no longer unfairly reflect on the CSM as a whole - leaving me and my people free to do as we please without needing to consider corporate, political, or media ramifications every time we make a **** joke, offend someone, or sell a supercap made of vapor.


Just reading this makes me think you have not been sincere at all and now trying to escape a full ban. You are not out of the woods yet. GL to you and yours if your gone
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#262 - 2012-03-28 21:55:43 UTC
I really don't care.

Far too many words have been typed about this.

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#263 - 2012-03-28 21:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
So all of your actions, including your Fanfest debacle, are not acceptable for a CSM chair, but are acceptable for a CSM member? Where is the line on that exactly? I thought it was here:

Quote:
They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

Can you reconcile your drunken tirade with the above standard?

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#264 - 2012-03-28 21:56:23 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
We're getting off on a tangent here though. I think its really important that we try to focus as much as possible on Issler and Darius using an innocent human being with a mental illness to further their agendas and personal vendettas towards one person, in a video game.

They're not goons, they can do no wrong.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#265 - 2012-03-28 21:56:26 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Xython wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Xython wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I continue to find it unbelievable that pubbie filth are still screaming for The Mittani's blood while Issler and Darius have willfully capitalized on person's alleged mental illness for their own gain... in a video game. The both of you are disgusting human beings.

Issler and Darius are going to be downright shocked when they realize that by choosing Goonswarm over the CSM, The Mittani just opened the door for perma-wardecs against their alliances.

Highsec will not save you, pubbie morons. Everything Burns.

Are we going to have to engage with highsec pvp mechanics.

What a day, I better start reading up on fast response instakilling police.


Not at all, if you wardec someone, like say, The Honda Accord [BEEP], then you can PVP them in highsec without any repercussions whatsoever. In fact, if you wanted to do something very entertaining, you could park your ass in their favorite areas in highsec and just kill them, over and over again, every time they leave a station.

Isn't that fascinating?


There's no way to force them to undock, so this won't happen.


But here is the wonderful, wonderful thing: If they're not undocking, they're not playing the game, right? So we could, to channel Darius JOHNSON, "ruin their game."
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#266 - 2012-03-28 21:56:34 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
So all of your actions, including your Fanfest debacle, are not acceptable for a CSM chair, but are acceptable for a CSM member? Where is the line on that exactly? I thought it was here:

Quote:
They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

Can you reconcile your drunken tirade with the above standard?

No one gives a **** about the crap you churn out, stop posting.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#267 - 2012-03-28 21:56:38 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?


Mayhem may be too light a word to use.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Htrag
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
#268 - 2012-03-28 21:56:47 UTC
Fair enough dude... sometimes you gotta take a personal hit for the greater good and you'll come back better for it.

Even with the ego in check a bit, you have a lot to offer on the player council.

Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game.

Townsend Harris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#269 - 2012-03-28 21:57:09 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?

Yes
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#270 - 2012-03-28 21:57:17 UTC
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Xython wrote:
Not at all, if you wardec someone, like say, The Honda Accord [BEEP], then you can PVP them in highsec without any repercussions whatsoever. In fact, if you wanted to do something very entertaining, you could park your ass in their favorite areas in highsec and just kill them, over and over again, every time they leave a station.

Isn't that fascinating?

Are you thinking that same thing i'm thinking?

Decshield.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#271 - 2012-03-28 21:57:17 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
So all of your actions, including your Fanfest debacle, are not acceptable for a CSM chair, but are acceptable for a CSM member? Where is the line on that exactly? I thought it was here:

Quote:
They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

Can you reconcile your drunken tirade with the above standard?


Look at you, being completely irrelevant and all.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Signal Error
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#272 - 2012-03-28 21:57:20 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?



Jita is a nice place...

Would be a shame if something happened to it.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#273 - 2012-03-28 21:57:31 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?


Mayhem may be too light a word to use.


"Helicopter Skullfucking" is the one I'd go with.
BiaXia
Perkone
Caldari State
#274 - 2012-03-28 21:57:44 UTC
MITTANI I DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR SINCERE

PLEASE POST PICTURES OF YOU WHIPPING YOURSELF AND SACRIFICING A CALF TO SHOW THAT YOU TRULY WISH TO ATONE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#275 - 2012-03-28 21:57:44 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
So all of your actions, including your Fanfest debacle, are not acceptable for a CSM chair, but are acceptable for a CSM member? Where is the line on that exactly? I thought it was here:

Quote:
They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

Can you reconcile your drunken tirade with the above standard?

Look at you, being completely irrelevant and all.

Totally relevant, it's mittani bashing in a mittani thread.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#276 - 2012-03-28 21:57:49 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
So all of your actions, including your Fanfest debacle, are not acceptable for a CSM chair, but are acceptable for a CSM member? Where is the line on that exactly? I thought it was here:

Quote:
They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

Can you reconcile your drunken tirade with the above standard?


Look at you, being completely irrelevant and all.


So glad that we have a hide posts button.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#277 - 2012-03-28 21:58:04 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?



If it wasn't for what happened at Fanfest, I don't think Mittens would've dropped the chair.

But, as they say, when life gives you lemons, kill all pubbies.


It's kind of funny, in retrospect I think people will realize Mittani being CSM chairman was one of the few points of leverage you had over us. Now that that's gone, we can effectively do everything possible to make life miserable in this game as long as it doesn't break the EULA and no amount of whining or posting from you will change that.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#278 - 2012-03-28 21:58:11 UTC
BiaXia wrote:
MITTANI I DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR SINCERE

PLEASE POST PICTURES OF YOU WHIPPING YOURSELF AND SACRIFICING A CALF TO SHOW THAT YOU TRULY WISH TO ATONE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE

You know they would just say it was being sacrificed to the devil right?

Oh wait, it's a trap?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Josef Djugashvilis
#279 - 2012-03-28 21:58:33 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?

You might want to read the post.



Read it again and it seems to me that it is to lead the Goons to cause further mayhem in the cold harsh place that is Eve.

This is not a signature.

Syndic Thrass
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#280 - 2012-03-28 21:58:57 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Has mittens declined the chairmanship of the CSM because of his behaviour at the fanfest, or because he is the leader of the Goons and wants a free hand to commit the Goons to cause mayhem in hisec etc?


Insinuating we didn't do that while he was chair.

Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8