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CCP - You host and encourage an "unfiltered" and drunken troll-fest, then cry foul?

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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#1 - 2012-03-28 11:18:34 UTC
I'm not going to talk about the actions of any one person, or whether they were right or wrong or should do whatever as penance.

My question are to CCP who seem conveniently corporate damage control on this.

Quote:
We are undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials. Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others.
Sorry, but this seems just like crap.

- You don't vet the content i.e. "unfiltered".
- You encourage and promote the innebriated state of the participants.
- You have promoted a long history of "naming names" and mail tear showcasing. Basically the more cutting of others the better.
- You feed it all live to the public.

Quote:
...we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others.
Exactly how is that expected given the nature of the event you have held here?

CCP I think there are more questions for you than there are for anyone else. Such as:

- What is CCP exact policy/process on reviewing presentations for the Alliance Panel? Does CCP contribute to the creation of the content?
- What are participants briefed on with regards to "no go" topics before they appear?
- Are participants briefed on CCP policies that would be relevant to a live global broadcast?
- Does CCP make any evaluation of a participants "fitness" to participate before they take the stage?
- What delay/dump protocol does CCP use in broadcast of these events? If it exists why was it not used?

CCP - you have a lot of explaining to do in my opinion.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#2 - 2012-03-28 11:22:12 UTC
What? Do you hate alcohol or something? Don't fudge it up for me. I want to go to Fanfest someday and be greeted with beer on a bus.
Getchur Roksoffski
System Shock Asylum
#3 - 2012-03-28 11:22:21 UTC
Dou you have to explicitly be told not to curb stomp an animals brains out into the gutter, to know that's probably not a good thing to do?
ExhumeToConsume
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-03-28 11:22:50 UTC
Killjoy, I like a nice cold beer whilst watching Roadhouse.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-28 11:23:13 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
CCP - you have a lot of explaining to do in my opinion.


There's not much explaining to do, really. The "public image" side of Fanfest has been growing, and this year it had a bit of a collision with the "drunken party vacation" side of it. They'll sort new rules out for presentations next year (presentation vetting, presenting under the influence, etc etc) and all will be well again.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-03-28 11:23:19 UTC
It's time to shut the **** up.

Bads will be bads.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-03-28 11:26:57 UTC
I think others were demonstrating an even greater inebriated state less than a couple of seats away from the Clown in the Wizard hat, yet somehow were still even more capable and civil so as to not incite cyberbullying with others.
Glockshna Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
#8 - 2012-03-28 11:28:17 UTC
**** happens.

Nothing to see here, just a lightweight trying to kill the party for everyone else.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#9 - 2012-03-28 11:29:47 UTC
...another special snowflake.

Go ahead and melt.
Frying Doom
#10 - 2012-03-28 11:30:29 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:
CCP - you have a lot of explaining to do in my opinion.


There's not much explaining to do, really. The "public image" side of Fanfest has been growing, and this year it had a bit of a collision with the "drunken party vacation" side of it. They'll sort new rules out for presentations next year (presentation vetting, presenting under the influence, etc etc) and all will be well again.

Is this with or without protest groups holding signs about suicide being a sin.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-03-28 11:30:40 UTC
but that's what the alliance panel is supposed to be, a bunch or drunk tool bags being drunken tool bags and waggling their epeens about the place.

The worm hole guy was the worst, he actually had interesting things to say about stuff... what a noob
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-03-28 11:32:31 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.


Are you also saying the Mittani is therefore disingenuous about his apology. Oh wait, we haven't ruled out the possibility he might have been drunk when he posted it of course. Roll
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#13 - 2012-03-28 11:32:58 UTC
ExhumeToConsume wrote:
Killjoy, I like a nice cold beer whilst watching Roadhouse.

Meryl SinGarda wrote:
What? Do you hate alcohol or something? Don't fudge it up for me. I want to go to Fanfest someday and be greeted with beer on a bus.
Don't let good old leaping to conclusions stop you.

I'm half in the bag now.

Drinking until you fall over is awesome fun!

However, getting pissed and then having a microphone put in your face then being expected to be funny doesn't gel with CCP's public statement for mine.
Sainrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-03-28 11:35:02 UTC
Its live tv... and they are drinking, fan fest wouldnt of been nearly as fun without copious amounts of alcohol as with everything in life, get off your high horse.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#15 - 2012-03-28 11:37:34 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
but that's what the alliance panel is supposed to be, a bunch or drunk tool bags being drunken tool bags and waggling their epeens about the place.
OK, if that's what it's supposed to be then explain CCP's statement that they are supposed to be "respectful and professional"?

Sounds like ass covering.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-03-28 11:37:44 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

Is this with or without protest groups holding signs about suicide being a sin.


Seriously, do you even know what you're trying to get at anymore?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-03-28 11:38:19 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:

However, getting pissed and then having a microphone put in your face then being expected to be funny doesn't gel with CCP's public statement for mine.


yu should watch some early bill hicks
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#18 - 2012-03-28 11:39:38 UTC
Sainrin wrote:
Its live tv... and they are drinking, fan fest wouldnt of been nearly as fun without copious amounts of alcohol as with everything in life, get off your high horse.
I'm not on any high horse.

I just want CCP to explain their sudden piety with regards to the Alliance Panel.

I'm not making any judgements, I'm asking for an explanation.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-28 11:41:43 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:

Sounds like ass covering.



That's exactly what it is.
Eve at the alliance level is basically a boys club and CCP likes to think that that's where all the fun is.
Unfortunatly just the alliance bods wouldn't keep the game going and growing and filling CCPs pockets as quickly as they'd like.

So they have to play the PR game and make like being mean and evil just isn't right, even though in game and in character it is.

Ultimatly I think it's more a case of society, as a whole, having it far too good for far too long, I blame political correctness for it all.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-28 11:42:52 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
space garbage...

No - they don't.

As with anything else, use the door if you are so shocked.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

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