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Backlash: The Victory of Goonswarm

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Kill'Boy Bunny
Perkone
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-03-28 12:55:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Kill'Boy Bunny
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:
Frankly, the only backlash I'm thinking we need is some backlash against Hollywood. Why didn't they make Roadhouse 2?


they did

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469965/
Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#82 - 2012-03-28 14:17:50 UTC
Let's up the ante a little.

I can envision someone creating a pool with bitcoin. Bitcoin transactions are quite hard to trace. Now how about this - someone (myself or another) publicized a Bitcoin address, and a website in a location not accessible by common law. This hypothetical person then proceeds to create a RL vengeance pool, where the pool pays out anyone who produces the following:

1 - evidence linking RL address of a person and this individual's Goonswarm avatar association.
2 - a specific act of RL retributive violence against this person, his or her RL property, health et al.

This pool could dole out RL: rewards for this kind of "escalated retribution", and I can envision a market where supply would meet demand; if a few hundred "grievously hurt" participants in the game Eve Online would bitcoin a few ten dollar equivalents, then Bitcoin would allow an effective retalliatory vengeance pool to reward acts of tangible (and specific) consequences for specific people in the real world - as long a fairly robust evidence would be involves. Donors would then register on this vengeance site and link their donation to specific acts of real world violence, pose a requirement for plausible evidence, and who in particular they'd like targeted.

Of course organizations such as Goonswarm are perfectly capable of counter-proposing similar initiatives. In fact with this post, and with their proven dehumanized track record I anticipate being on such a list in a week. :)

This is purely a speculation clearly, but one CCP needs to keep a close eye on. Purely as an intellectual experiment in how these bully conflicts escalate I'd love seeing someone start up such a website. Just for the sake of boundaries I'd suggest the following -

* no physical violence or intimidation against the children of the targeted individual
* no physical violence against pets of the targeted individual

But, in the words of a widely respected politicians - "all options are on the table", so to speak. I can not make any statements whether or not I'd get involved in such potentially very criminal activity, but I regard the experiment as an actual exercise in self-regulating moral vengeance, especially since it will be a crowd-sourced effort. I am keenly interested when the pervasive ambiance of PVP ruthlessness maturates in to the first RL crowd-sourced gangland style torture-murder in the real world.

I am thinking hmmmm,... "soldering irons".

Also, since CCP has regarded things such as physical/RL sabotage, burglary and stalking as "perfectly acceptable aspects of meta-gaming" I am keenly interest in how they'd react to speculations on such initiatives. Whatever the case I have now clearly shined my light on how the current situation has clearly escalated far outside the bounds of sanity. Maybe this post is what it takes to make CCP realize just how far.
Ghoest
#83 - 2012-03-28 14:34:16 UTC
I say - salute to Goons.
This was their biggest win ever. Well played.

And thumbs down to CCP.

Wherever You Went - Here You Are

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#84 - 2012-03-28 14:37:35 UTC
Ghoest wrote:
I say - salute to Goons.
This was their biggest win ever. Well played.

And thumbs down to CCP.


Then why are you still subscribed and continuing to bore everyone ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-03-28 14:39:37 UTC
Even when Goons lose, we win.

Heh.

Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#86 - 2012-03-28 14:41:05 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
Can someone who speaks pseudo-intellectual-pubbie translate this for me?



Goons actions are self destructive in the long run.

Thats about it really.


Couldn't he have said that in one sentence or less? :( OP: TL;DR, Title was enough.

You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.

-Winston Churchill

Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#87 - 2012-03-28 14:44:19 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
Can someone who speaks pseudo-intellectual-pubbie translate this for me?


Sure, I can help ...

OP is smart.
You are not.

Have a nice day

Nothing clever at this time.

Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-03-28 14:48:32 UTC
Thanks OP for your insightful post. I would contend several of your points, however, starting with
xXv1c10usXx
Alchemy Corp
#89 - 2012-03-28 14:53:19 UTC
You know, here is the thing. Sure, goons push the very extents of the envelope beyond the black lines in to undetermined grey space. At least they do what is expected, if you expect anything different like they are suddenly coming to Jesus or something, you deserve whatever forum level and in game embarrassment you get.

Where is all the upheaval about all the Band of Developers (oops, sry BoB) shadows that still exist and perpetuate certain mechanic exploits? See, that is beyond the black and grey lines and you fail to call those elements out in to the public forum. Hypocrisy always has blinders on. People cannot call out the real truth because it hits too close to home. Goons have neither won or lost here, they are playing their game, that is it. All the tears and agony are right up their game play methods and you fell right in to it.

I would suggest that all the cry baby wanna be, do gooder white knight, increase CCP Gov'ment rules regulation, tree hugging, environmentalist, commy bass turd, low life, social game reject, suck asses go find a different game to play that only has pretty jeweled NPCs in it, cause playing a MMO that has combat interaction is obviously too much for you, not to mention and meta game attributes.
The Hamilton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2012-03-28 14:59:29 UTC
I was under the impression that Goons wanted EVE gone. Isn't this just another step to try and achieve this end goal? Or am I entirely wrong?
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#91 - 2012-03-28 15:00:45 UTC
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