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Bibosikus
Air
#81 - 2012-03-28 01:35:14 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:

No one is saying he didn't **** up - least of all me. What I'm saying is that the apology was sufficient to the **** up. At worst he incited people to grief someone in game. As far as I'm aware, nobody in game knows The Wis's real name and nobody has harassed him as a result of this except for his white knights.

Basically what we're saying is that the sudden spike of Preachers, Popes, and Internet Lawyers we're seeing on Eve-O are simply people hopping on a bandwagon constructed to defame a person who has given his real life name. The people in this band wagon have gone so far as to deliver literal threats of personal violence and discuss the various ways in which The Mittani should be physically murdered. Yet nobody is really calling them out on that because its all fine. Right?

-Liang


Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..


Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
#82 - 2012-03-28 01:42:35 UTC
Taihbea wrote:


You get what you pay for.
Actions have consequences.
HTFU.
Only purpose is to ruin "your" game...

So **** you mittens little *****.
What goes around comes around.



As an independent guy in game, one thing I've learned from this whole mess is that the goon hatters are no better than the goons.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#83 - 2012-03-28 01:46:46 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:

Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..


I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it).

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2012-03-28 01:56:11 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:

Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..


I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it).

-Liang



No seriously you back that Crap up right now Liang.

I will report them myself if you can show me these posts.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-03-28 01:58:19 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
The F Word wrote:
You're getting hung up on the semantics when the spirit of it was pretty clear - the entire panel was about the delicious tears they were enjoying at the expense of others - schadenfreude.


You're very right, the spirit was clear. Clear to the goons listening, who promptly did nothing. Clear to the players listening, who promptly did nothing. That's why he didn't get harassed over this, and why this was a complete non-issue until a few days later when someone smelled a metagaming opportunity.

How the *F* can you guys act surprised?

Srsly - with the reputation that the players known as "goons" have cultivated over the years, how can you even act a *tiny* bit surprised?

(and just for full disclosure: I *believe* the apology from "Alex" is sincere, where I would never believe it from "The Mittani").

Anyone who has played eve over the years and paid *any* attention to the forums, outside media or (in some cases) even the recruitment channel has heard of GSF/Goons whoever and by whatever name... And it has usually been some ass-hattery or another... And now you act surprised when these same people smell blood in the water?


Please - that's asking us to believe you guys are really blind.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#86 - 2012-03-28 01:58:33 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:

Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..


I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it).

-Liang


Post them... I want to see this and if true I may well report them too.
stoicfaux
#87 - 2012-03-28 02:01:37 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:

Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..


I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it).

-Liang



No seriously you back that Crap up right now Liang.

I will report them myself if you can show me these posts.


The mods have been busy deleting those kinds of posts.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#88 - 2012-03-28 02:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaivar Lancer
The CSM as we know it is finished, thanks to the Mittani. I wouldn't be surprised if they abolish the CSM next year. It's a liability with no gain for CCP. If Eve dies, it's because the goons killed it. CCP is looking for investors, but no serious investor is going to give CCP money with headlines like "CCP-endorsed CSM mocks suicidal player".
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2012-03-28 02:24:24 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:

Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..


I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it).

-Liang



No seriously you back that Crap up right now Liang.

I will report them myself if you can show me these posts.


The mods have been busy deleting those kinds of posts.




Ive been following all these threads closely and didnt see any like that talking about the mittani. Though i saw lots of goons saying what liang applies about anyone saying anything against the mittani or goons before they were pulled. Maybe liang just needs an eye exam.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Ascendic
Polaris Syndicate
#90 - 2012-03-28 02:33:36 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.

Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.

And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.

If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.

Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.

Lynch mob mentality.

Jesus ******* christ.


Quoted for the mutha fuckin truth!

-Liang


For once I agree with a Liang post.

WTF is this universe coming to?
Ascendic
Polaris Syndicate
#91 - 2012-03-28 02:36:23 UTC
Taihbea wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

Nope not lynch mob mentality

Lynch mob mentality is saying lets go harasses this guy until he kills himself for real. "OH i was just joking, even though hes dead I didnt really meant it. ""I was jut going along with eveyone else officer" would have been the next tag line and CCP closing its doors due to criminal investigations.


Hey, what is The Mittani's real name? What is The Wis's real name?

Who is getting literally harassed? Thought so.

-Liang


And who put his name out there by his own will?

Jezzz people are so ******* stupid.


Indeed. Your post speaks volumes to it.
Ascendic
Polaris Syndicate
#92 - 2012-03-28 02:38:28 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:



You first off dont know a damn thing about a lunch mob.

And what you highlighted is clear proof of im inciting violence against another player.

And in the context of him being suicide.

In that context he meant to harass someone until they killed themselves in real life.

Completely unforgivable conduct for any CSM member let alone the chair.



The grammar in this post makes me want to *headdesk* until death. You are inciting violence upon another player.

WTB lawyer.
Savion Chastis
Golden Sail Enterprises
Rote Works
#93 - 2012-03-28 02:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Savion Chastis
If it's such an issue, why stoop to that level?

Instead, half of the moral bandwagon manages to get trolled by a bunch of **** posting goons into hypocrisy. Which in turn makes the lot of you look equally as ******** as they are. The problem is, that kind of dongdancing is expected from goons.

Don't evolve into something that is just as bad as the witch you want to burn... Any further whistle blowing and holier than thou attitude only makes **** worse. Trust in CCP to do what is right (which has almost been forced, unfortunately). If the results are not to satisfaction , go from there. Until then, stop letting yourselves look rabid.


Also, haha that dude said lunch mob.... xD
Ascendic
Polaris Syndicate
#94 - 2012-03-28 02:45:17 UTC
Manssell wrote:
Taihbea wrote:


You get what you pay for.
Actions have consequences.
HTFU.
Only purpose is to ruin "your" game...

So **** you mittens little *****.
What goes around comes around.



As an independent guy in game, one thing I've learned from this whole mess is that the goon hatters are no better than the goons.



Hmmmm.

Very peculiar.

I have heard about these EVE players who go outside in the daylight and do not have their head up their a$$ but I have never actually encountered one or believed said rumors to be true.

Interesting indeed.

This changes EVERYTHING.
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2012-03-28 02:51:12 UTC
The sad thing is that instead of regaling in all the awesome stuff revealed at fanfest, we're forced to wade through sh it thread after sh it thread. (This isn't really one of them)
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#96 - 2012-03-28 03:32:28 UTC
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:
The sad thing is that instead of regaling in all the awesome stuff revealed at fanfest, we're forced to wade through sh it thread after sh it thread. (This isn't really one of them)


Pick one:
* There was awsome stuff relealed at Fanfest?
* We need something to do while hoping to have TEST back flooding Jita local.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2012-03-28 03:33:34 UTC
Taihbea wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.

Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.

And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.

If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.

Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.

Lynch mob mentality.

Jesus ******* christ.


You get what you pay for.
Actions have consequences.
HTFU.
Only purpose is to ruin "your" game...

So **** you mittens little *****.
What goes around comes around.


You're quite angry. Perhaps you should calm down.
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2012-03-28 04:10:11 UTC
Manssell wrote:

As an independent guy in game, one thing I've learned from this whole mess is that the goon hatters are no better than the goons.

Q F T
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#99 - 2012-03-28 09:19:56 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
As much as I disagreed with what occurred, once I'd stated my position on this I left it there for the situation to be dealt with. This is simply petty and vindictive, lashing out because you have an axe to grind and undermines any legitimate concerns that may have been put forward.

Alex could have been a lot more diplomatic in his approach on the matter that's caused this uproar, this is just childish and self serving.



Yeah not like there isnt some Karmic justice playing out here for all the horrible things that Mittani and the goons have done playing out or anything.


That's fair enough, actions have consequences as we know. I don't have any axe to grind here so I'm just going to see how things turn out.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2012-03-28 09:35:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivana Twinkle
Since when has Sony listened to their customers? Much less listening to some mongoloid sperging on twitter.