Ships & Modules

There should be a trade-off to the Titan DD. If the EHP was reduced on both the Titans and the Moms down to little more than regular caps, and the DD was like a big smartbomb, centered on the Titan activating it, then multiple Titans doing an AOE DD might actually kill each other even if they are blue to each other. They would have to use it more strategically. Scale the damage by ship signature so that subcaps could also survive a single DD.

Could also make Titans to be anti-super ships instead of just anti-nonsupercap ships. Make it as easy for a group of Titans to alpha a super as a nonsupercap.

And yet again you continue to miss my point. If you don't like something, find a counter to it, don't just keep trying to do the same thing time and time again and expecting a different outcome. Einstein had something to say about that.

As for being a Providence dweller, that's completely irrelevant. I don't now fly a titan, nor do I know anyone who does, even distantly, this is about not nerfing the game because a group of people don't like certain aspects of it. Everytime an element of the game is leveled (as opposed to balanced), the game loses and so do all the players. Some lose immediately, but eventually we all do because the game becomes bland and unimaginative. It's just not reasonable to think that a ship like a Titan would not have an AoE weapon of some sort - every other size of ship does, why not a Titan. And the idea that it can magically only hit capitals is ludicrous.

CCP, please stop nerfing the game.

tell me how to counter 30 titans sitting inside a cynojammer POS, only poking out to fire off their doomsdays on the fleet sieging the jammer

clearly this is an effortless endeavor for somebody with rich experience in fleet PvP like yourself

AoE doomsdays were a dumb mechanic and anybody who says they should be added back is unqualified to talk about nullsec in any context

How to counter 30 titans.... I dunno, 40 titans? I don't know and I don't really care. There is an answer for anything, and just because I don't know it, and more importantly, you don't know it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, or that there's a problem. If 40 titans is the answer and you can't field 40 titans, that's your problem, not the game's.

You're still missing my point. There are ways to balance the game without nerfing things like AoE DDs and the titans that wield them. I've already suggested a way to do this that would work quite well, if CCP had the nerve and will to do it. It would allow AoE DDs back in the game and still let swarms of little ships survive them, at least long enough to limp away, if they shouldn't be there in the first place. You don't like AoE DDs or titans, I get that. It doesn't make them wrong. I am firmly on the side of CCP keeping some integrity in the game, that's all.

And yet again, I have to emphasise I'm not talking about any specific experience in the game, just the concept that the game should be nerfed to suit people who have a specific gripe about something. In a way, the idea that I am "unqualified to talk about nullsec in any context" is a benefit to me, because I can see this for what it is without the problem of being too close to it.

How about boosting titans' DPS against supercaps? To say... 40-60k. Just to lineup them with dreads in terms of DPS/EHP ratio in 'same class vs. same class' battles. Leave their anticapital and antistucture dps about the present '10k like a dreadnought' – we already have dreadnoughts to shoot poses and (to some extent) capitals, supercarriers to shoot capitals and sov structures. Then titans will have their unique role: antisupercapital weapon.

And for the doomsdays the same: that little penalty 'no RR for the first two-three minutes of the cooldown'. That will give a tactial trait to them: there should be a suitable local situation on the battlefield for the doomsday to be a good choice, not just global circumstances like 'we gank and are safe' or 'we would be wrecks if we don't use them'.

I would be kinda glad to see the same stuff with the dreadnoughts' siege but it seems they're doomed to be crap while the siege is not active.


It's hard to imagine any other direct combat role for a titan. If it is a direct combat role then the ship is anti-something ship. And that something should be constatly becoming wrecks in a mere pfffff of a group of anti-ships.

If not combat role then titans can be some awesome fleet support ships. Cut out all that damage stuff, let that slots be filled with new gang modules. Like... ugh... projected capacitor transfers; AoE-resist field, giving +10% resists to fleet members inside it for the first 2 minutes and giving nothing for the next 8 ones (non-stacking with other fields). Abilities that make positioning of the ships matter, not the stupid 'jump in and orbit anchor'. Abilities that do not scale up with the number of friendly titans present on the field. There's plenty of focus/spider stuff elsewhere.

wow your answer to my question, "how do you counter 30 titans sitting inside a cynojammer POS" is "drop 40 titans"

in a cynojammed system

you should literally stop posting and go back to mining or whatever it is you do in providence

nerfing titans is nerfing the game now

lol

yes, evolutionary changes like "aoe DDs are dumb and whoever came up with that is an idiot, let's make a single-target high-alpha weapon instead"

the devs giveth and the devs taketh away

deal with it

oh no they might lose your subscription if they keep nerfing titans

(nerf titans)